Marriage Quest finally on the horizon! Yay!

[LoLo]

I knew that this thread would become a flame war over same sex marriage. People taking real world American politics into a fantasy world made by Japan for the lose.

[Grizzlebeard]

I knew that this thread would become a flame war over same sex marriage. People taking real world American politics into a fantasy world made by Japan for the lose.

It's not just an American stance on the topic. People play all over the world, China soon to be included, and same-sex marriages aren't necessarily legal in those countries. In the United Kingdom same-sex marriage is legal in England and Wales for instance, Scotland soon, and currently not allowed in Northern Ireland. S-E, being a Japanese company, have always erred on the side of conservatism rather than take a stance on divisive topics. They may surprise us all but I highly doubt it going off past experience.

[charlemagne]

Is Cid single does anyone know?

[Elven]

How is it discrimination that same gendered couples can not get married while different gendered couples can... Hmm...

Do you not see the irony? now you are bringing in our real world thinking into this game ignorant of how Eorzea may have passed this way of thinking. It's amusing to say the least that you keep over looking this point.

[LineageRazor]

I do, Japan isn't against gay people at all. But they are very conservative about it. Which is cool in my eyes I'm gay my self and get bugged by people that love to shove there sexuality in peoples faces.

While no expert on Japanese gender views, I've read that it's not considered unusual for teenaged girls to form romantic couples - but that this is considered to be "practice" for "real" heterosexual relationships, and that lesbianism in adults is considered disgraceful and childish. In short, lesbianism isn't even real - it's just a phase that high school girls sometimes go through and sometimes stubbornly cling to as adults. It can be a lot harder to fight for something that isn't even regarded as a thing that exists. At any rate, don't be so sure about Japan's supposedly being progressive in terms of gay rights.

Anyway, while many people are very serious about the whole marriage thing, I'm guessing that even if same-sex marriages were allowed nine times out of ten you'd wind up with something like this:

Tifa Chere: im so lucky to have a sexy kitty bride!

Kitty Gurl: Yay! i love you so much! But... I have a confession. I'm actually a guy IRL.

Tifa Chere: ...wut?

Kitty Gurl: Sorry. ;_;

Tifa Chere: but im a guy, too...

Kitty Gurl: huh

Tifa Chere: ...

Kitty Gurl: ...

Tifa Chere: wanna cyber?

[Ashgarth]

To all people who say that it's not discrimination, that it might be in the lore, that we shouldnt complain about it...

Just imagine for a second you are in the character creation and start your game as a female hyur archer. Then after a few days you decide to play as a paladin, go to the guild and speak to the npc to unlock it and the game says:

"Women can't become paladins, paladin is a mans job... You get a buff for culinarian tho"

If that kind of retrograde thinking is not present in the game then why the hell is this fantasy land in wich giants marry child looking people, humans mate with cat-people and so on against same sex marriages?

[Jandor]

I wouldn't have thought same-sex marriage would be an issue, what with the sex-change potion going on sale soon. No one bats an eyelid at guys being girls, girls being guys and everyone swapping gender on a whim, but a gay marriage is a big deal?

[Phe]

*le sigh*

LGBT telling SE how to design their own game.

again.

japan is a land with priority on classical family values.
don't like it?
play a western MMO.

[LoLo]

It's not just an American stance on the topic. People play all over the world, China soon to be included, and same-sex marriages aren't necessarily legal in those countries. In the United Kingdom same-sex marriage is legal in England and Wales for instance, Scotland soon, and currently not allowed in Northern Ireland. S-E, being a Japanese company, have always erred on the side of conservatism rather than take a stance on divisive topics. They may surprise us all but I highly doubt it going off past experience.

That was my whole point. American's thinking that their political views should be pandered to because they can't see past their bubble.

[Demetirus]

As much as I support same sex marriage, I would never call the traditionals misguided. Even as an atheist, I would never call a believer misguided. Good post.

I agree with both of you. I really feel like we're just going to set things back if both sides keep talking like this. Credit to Mcshiggs and Altijacek for being rational about it.

I don't like the lack of options for my LGB (I've left the T off because I'm not sure how this one affects them as much, but I'm more than open to an explanation on that one) friends and I really hope that, if nothing else, it just quietly turns out that there aren't any gender restrictions on the unions.