Plan to remove benefit for failing leves?

[UllrHellfire]

Seems all the cry babies got there way in something that was not a major issue next all were going to see is " No place to Rank up or level blah blah " cuz in reality just took the best way to level and made it solo so also say goodbye to any kind of player bonding. what's next making Linkshells only 8 people and can only type 1000 words a day?...

[TheVedis]

Where'd the 2k number come from?

also add in its a made up number not official
no one knows for sure what we will get yet

[Reika]

Seems all the cry babies got there way in something that was not a major issue next all were going to see is " No place to Rank up or level blah blah " cuz in reality just took the best way to level and made it solo so also say goodbye to any kind of player bonding. what's next making Linkshells only 8 people and can only type 1000 words a day?...

Complainers always win... im sure if enough people complained the LS member limit was too high, they would surely lower the LS member limit.

Tho, as long as they have the content in the fields, and the content doesn't give *** sp like field monsters do now, I wont have a problems with leves shifting to solo play.

[SAMINUS]

I am glad they made it to where solo players have some more flexibility, I get on alot of times and many people in my LS are not on, so I have no one to grind with, gives me lots of time to synth and explore but sp is crap, even on solo levequests. I do feel that this game should be party based, though due to the low amount of players, I like having solo be an option until the numbers get up again. I do not like the idea of nerfing the levequests for groups, but I am happy that solo adventurers have something to do until their mates get online/get back to the game.

[Molly_Millions]

I am glad they made it to where solo players have some more flexibility, I get on alot of times and many people in my LS are not on, so I have no one to grind with, gives me lots of time to synth and explore but sp is crap, even on solo levequests. I do feel that this game should be party based, though due to the low amount of players, I like having solo be an option until the numbers get up again. I do not like the idea of nerfing the levequests for groups, but I am happy that solo adventurers have something to do until their mates get online/get back to the game.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think much is changing as far as solo play is concerned. All that's being done is incentive to do leves as a group is being removed. I don't think the base SP for leves is being boosted at all. Options to rank up are being taken away here, we're not being given more options (as far as we know).

[DeadRiser]

Seems all the cry babies got there way in something that was not a major issue next all were going to see is " No place to Rank up or level blah blah " cuz in reality just took the best way to level and made it solo so also say goodbye to any kind of player bonding. what's next making Linkshells only 8 people and can only type 1000 words a day?...

Glad I got my way. I didn't think that bonding was

"Oh you have the same leve as me, lets join up and fail it in the end to get crazy sp, then split up.. Fair?"

No no no, that is not bonding sir.

[Physic]

honestly i think this idea that leves become solo only is innaccurate,
when they say they are going to be solo content they mean, solo players will get more benefit from them than they used to, as in solo players will have a viable means of leveling up.
Doesnt mean groups wont also get benefit, sp reward changing for time of completion and difficulty more directly benefits groups.
the only thing that is getting nerfed is fail a leve strategy, and leve linking to god level sp. lets be honest, 1k sp, for a monster that automatically has less hp than its in the field compatriot, is kind of foolish, especially for "group content". Group content should actually have more hp, it was pretty backward before.

that said, im not a fan of them nerfing the sp available over all, but just the skill point change alone is going to lower your SP, remember having incredibly hax stats for most of your replaying jobs on other classes? well now you will be as gimp as a new player. And i can tell you having played with my friends who just started, the effect of having stats is not small.

[ApplePie]

Ass-pulled it, it looks like.

If it is "ass-pulled" because someone asked me my opinion on the reward we would get, then okay.

[Molly_Millions]

honestly i think this idea that leves become solo only is innaccurate,
when they say they are going to be solo content they mean, solo players will get more benefit from them than they used to, as in solo players will have a viable means of leveling up.
Doesnt mean groups wont also get benefit, sp reward changing for time of completion and difficulty more directly benefits groups.
the only thing that is getting nerfed is fail a leve strategy, and leve linking to god level sp. lets be honest, 1k sp, for a monster that automatically has less hp than its in the field compatriot, is kind of foolish, especially for "group content". Group content should actually have more hp, it was pretty backward before.

that said, im not a fan of them nerfing the sp available over all, but just the skill point change alone is going to lower your SP, remember having incredibly hax stats for most of your replaying jobs on other classes? well now you will be as gimp as a new player. And i can tell you having played with my friends who just started, the effect of having stats is not small.

the part i highlighted isn't correct. Nowhere have I seen that soloing leves will give you any more SP that it does now. If anythin you'll get less or the same as now. We'll get even less if we do them as a group.

They are disincentivizing (is that even a word?) leves as a way to rank up as a group, which leaves them as solo centric content. They aren't adding incentives to complete them solo.

[ApplePie]

the part i highlighted isn't correct. Nowhere have I seen that soloing leves will give you any more SP that it does now. If anythin you'll get less or the same as now. We'll get even less if we do them as a group.

They are disincentivizing (is that even a word?) leves as a way to rank up as a group, which leaves them as solo centric content.

Yeah, it is the present participle of disincentivize. And I agree; until rank 40 plus, I have a feeling leves will be very underwhelming.

Edit: My friend sums this up fairly well.
forumer: rank up too fast
SE: kill behest
forumer: lol BW leves so easy
SE: -remove bonuses- GFY
forum: QQ

I can't wait for it to take 3-4 months to get a job to 50 now ^-^ thx everyone for your hard work