Marriage Quest finally on the horizon! Yay!

[Mcshiggs]

Yet I haven't actually insulted anyone.

It's pointing out that their attitude towards other human beings is faulty.

" regardless of whether or not the misguided feel "ready". going to get anywhere.

If someone called you misguided because of your views, and that your attitude is faulty would you not take that as an insult?

[Lukha]

The only way to change society's mind is to forcibly alter how a system works

Attitudes like that only manage to set back whatever cause you think you're championing. You can't force a person to think or feel a certain way, and trying will get you a lot of bad will at best, and cause a violent backlash at worst.

The correct way to 'change a society's mind' is slowly, over time. It's the nature of culture that each younger generation becomes more open-minded than the last. In our grandparents' generation, even SPEAKING about homosexuality was just Not Done, let alone considering that same-sex marriage might one day be made legal. By the time our grandchildren are our age, they'll find it hard to believe anyone made a big deal over it.


Of course, I do want same-sex marriage included in the game, but the way to get it is to be polite but persistent; FFXIV's team is remarkably receptive to the opinions and requests of the community.

[Astralos]

If they aren't adding same-sex marriages then they aren't doing it right. And if they aren't doing it right, I'd rather them not do it at all.

[Seif]

So if I fantasia myself to female, get married to my long term bf and fantasia back to a version of me with the fun parts, can we still be married if the ring item is still in the inventory?

[jars]

If someone called you misguided because of your views, and that your attitude is faulty would you not take that as an insult?

not really, no. would you consider saying someone that believes 2+2=5 is wrong an insult?

[KhalidTheGreat]

One of the dumbest things to put into a video game.

So true. I still can't understand the reason behind this.
What's next? Having virtual babies together?

Some RL stuff shouldn't cross over to video games imo :/

[Nayto]

So true. I still can't understand the reason behind this.
What's next? Having virtual babies together?

Some RL stuff shouldn't cross over to video games imo :/

Eh, you think that's stupid what about this idea that people wanted?

If there's a demand, then it's not stupid.

PS. The party finder is actually representation of a real life job board. You'll notice postings asking of previous experience and what not... LIKE A REAL JOB.

[Elven]

If they aren't adding same-sex marriages then they aren't doing it right. And if they aren't doing it right, I'd rather them not do it at all.

I actually didn't give that a second thought since technically you could interspecies marry on this game so same sex really isn't a thing

[Mcshiggs]

not really, no. would you consider saying someone that believes 2+2=5 is wrong an insult?

By comparing someone's opinion, it wasn't even my post they were insulting, to an incorrect math problem let's me know you of course would be offended if someone told you were wrong because of your beliefs, or that your look at humanity was flawed. Remember I never said anything for or against the issue, I simply stated that insulting people was not the way to go to try to get your point across. If you want to use math to try to describe this, try any number divided by zero. 4/0, 36/0, 73/0, anything will work because the answer is that there is no answer. When you deal with people's opinions there is no right or wrong, there is what you believe and what they do.

[IfritReborn]

Y'know, out of all the games I played, the only MMO's where there have been "issues" about same-sex anything are the games where the DEVELOPERS themselves make it a big deal.
SWTOR and FF14!

Trion did not come out and make some sort of announcement regarding same sex, they patched it into the game and that was that. No fuss
ZOS LAUNCHED with it, said nothing and there was no fuss

Bioware and Yoshi: "Oh we don't know if the player base will react well to it, we don't want any controversy"
Controversy ensues.