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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    @Mcshiggs: I'd appreciate a bit less condescension. It's always the same with these things... people supporting same-sex marriage express their displeasure over restrictions, and other folk come in and claim we're insulting people or screaming or throwing fits... just because we speak up. Stop it.
    You called other people's opinions misguided and their attitude toward other humans faulty, just because they don't agree with you. I'm not saying anything about your views, I am saying things about how you insult others about their views. You have been doing what you are claiming others are doing to you, I have not once said if I agree or disagree with your outlook on same sex marriage, my issue is how you talk down and insult people that don't share your view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    my issue is how you talk down and insult people that don't share your view.
    Yet I haven't actually insulted anyone. You're taking a single word and blowing it way out of proportion because for some reason people think that being small and meek is how we're going to change the world. While it would be nice, it's not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    Yet I haven't actually insulted anyone.
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    It's pointing out that their attitude towards other human beings is faulty.
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    " regardless of whether or not the misguided feel "ready". going to get anywhere.
    If someone called you misguided because of your views, and that your attitude is faulty would you not take that as an insult?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    If someone called you misguided because of your views, and that your attitude is faulty would you not take that as an insult?
    not really, no. would you consider saying someone that believes 2+2=5 is wrong an insult?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jars View Post
    not really, no. would you consider saying someone that believes 2+2=5 is wrong an insult?
    By comparing someone's opinion, it wasn't even my post they were insulting, to an incorrect math problem let's me know you of course would be offended if someone told you were wrong because of your beliefs, or that your look at humanity was flawed. Remember I never said anything for or against the issue, I simply stated that insulting people was not the way to go to try to get your point across. If you want to use math to try to describe this, try any number divided by zero. 4/0, 36/0, 73/0, anything will work because the answer is that there is no answer. When you deal with people's opinions there is no right or wrong, there is what you believe and what they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    You called other people's opinions misguided and their attitude toward other humans faulty, just because they don't agree with you. I'm not saying anything about your views, I am saying things about how you insult others about their views. You have been doing what you are claiming others are doing to you, I have not once said if I agree or disagree with your outlook on same sex marriage, my issue is how you talk down and insult people that don't share your view.
    There's a difference, you realize? Her opinion isn't suggesting that a type of person should be treated unfairly. You can't fight "Hate" with nice language, you have to point out "why" treating anyone as "Inferior" is wrong no matter what political light you try to shed on it.

    It's like you're trying to contrive the argument and tell them "Religious people can say being Gay is wrong, but you're not allowed to tell them that their beliefs are wrong."

    I can tell that you're trying to be diplomatic, and I appreciate it but the honest answer is, there's no diplomatic answer for this. It's like stabbing someone in the stomach, and when you ask why it upset them, you say "If you bring up the stab wound than you're just being hateful."
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