There will be new main content to rank up?

[Xatsh]

Square needs to be careful with removing the main leveling focus in the game atm they are removing 3-4hrs of leveling content a reset from the game and adding in 60mins worth... so we are losing 3hrs of party based content.

Then again we have to see how Leves are, if Party is still > Solo or not. If leves are not worth doing as groups or Solo > Groups SE has in tern removed alot of content for many of the players in the game atm.

The majority of people I see in game prefere group content and group leveling focus throughout the game not just endgame/dungeons. In fact it is one of the main reason I hear for them choosing FFXIV over Rift and WoW atm.

I have a feeling this is going to a grass is always greener on the other side scenario. Just like the aboloshing of the orriginal SP system was cheered on... but in the end it all but destroyed party gameplay and stopped people from using the party search and making outside partys on normal mobs.... YES hard to believe but even NAs where using the party feature at one time.

In short forcing players to solo will in the end kill this game. And not being able to party easily and have people prefer to do it is as good as removing party content all together.

Atm each major Grind Camp outside leves can hold 1-2 partys max... anymore the that and you are looking at sp gains around 12-14/hr which I can get solo. SE needs to increase respawn rates massively or rebalanced the whole SP equation before changing leves as a primary leveling source....

I sure hope SE realizes this and are doing what they know will work... not what they "think" will. SE has a bad habit of not playing their own games before making changes. Sorta like how Nin was treated like a main DD for over a year and SE ended up being shocked when they learned people where using it as a tank for the past year.

[Nero]

Hopefully the 15 to 30 minute respawn timers for open world mobs will get an adjustment as well as the raising the 10 rank diff SP cap. Otherwise we'll all want to gouge our eyes out with spoons by the time we hit 50.

There are also Mobs with Spawntimes around 1-5 Minutes. What i would like to see is, that you can actually pull Mobs to a certain "Camp", just like it was in FFXI. In FFXIV Mobs like to go back at a certain point which makes the "normal" way of SP-Party real crappy. I dont care really about Roaming and its a really nice and fast way to gain SP, but making "normal" SP-Camps would be an Improvment imho.

[Rydin]

In short forcing players to solo will in the end kill this game.

Kill your gaming experience or kill the game from a business standpoint?
I don't know if that is true but it would be an interesting experiment...
Can a solo MMORPG thrive... If done right I think it could, although I wouldn't really want to play it
I think the PS3 crowd might welcome a solo-centric experience even though I personally prefer party content
I think we all should get away from "I wouldn't like this change so no one would" mentality a little bit
personally, I'd like to think I'm NOT your average gamer and sometimes I go against the grain....

[darkstarpoet1]

There are also Mobs with Spawntimes around 1-5 Minutes. What i would like to see is, that you can actually pull Mobs to a certain "Camp", just like it was in FFXI. In FFXIV Mobs like to go back at a certain point which makes the "normal" way of SP-Party real crappy. I dont care really about Roaming and its a really nice and fast way to gain SP, but making "normal" SP-Camps would be an Improvment imho.

remember the being able to pull mobs long distances was removed because of them being afraid of the burn parties returning in xiv. the mobs do not chase you to the end of the zone for a camp anymore. they only follow you for a short distance. once again it is what people hope will be put in to replace the leveling now, but nobody knows what, if anything, will actually be put in.

[Molly_Millions]

remember the being able to pull mobs long distances was removed because of them being afraid of the burn parties returning in xiv. the mobs do not chase you to the end of the zone for a camp anymore. they only follow you for a short distance. once again it is what people hope will be put in to replace the leveling now, but nobody knows what, if anything, will actually be put in.

Sadly, my best guess says that nothing will take the place of leves until 1.19 at the earliest.

[darkstarpoet1]

Sadly, my best guess says that nothing will take the place of leves until 1.19 at the earliest.

i hate to say it, but i've been saying the same thing. thank goodness most of my battle classes are capped so it's not going to hurt me as much as alot of other people.

[Rydin]

i hate to say it, but i've been saying the same thing. thank goodness most of my battle classes are capped so it's not going to hurt me as much as alot of other people.

I said that same thing... hahaha
At the end of the day I don't think they want to replace leve SP gains with anything else... Seems like they want a slower 1 through 50 so they can add a bunch of mid level content to satisfy people and don't have to add as much 50+ content

[Molly_Millions]

I said that same thing... hahaha
At the end of the day I don't think they want to replace leve SP gains with anything else... Seems like they want a slower 1 through 50 so they can add a bunch of mid level content to satisfy people and don't have to add as much 50+ content

That's all well and good, but if the content isn't in 1.18, they're gonna have a bunch of bored adventurers on their hands at least until there is something to fill the gap left by SP parties. The bottom line is people want to rank up, and they are basically taking away one of the avenues to do so without replacing it immediately (as far as we know) that's not gonna create a good atmosphere IMO.

[syntaxlies]

Sadly, my best guess says that nothing will take the place of leves until 1.19 at the earliest.

i agree, ive been doing as many leves as possible because i fear how hard it will be to lvl after. My only glimmer of hope is that there will enough replay value in these dungeons that i will not need to rank my lower jobs if i dont want.

[Betelgeuzah]

I think that being rewarded exp for different activities is not in contradiction with having different types of rewards and progression depending on said activities.

I forgot to add the word 'exclusively' to the sentence you bolded. My apologies.