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    the cause of the drop outs/90k is cogentco seeing as they have from anywhere 15%-60% packet loss on there hops. the issue isnt with servers but its been with cogentco network which u would see if u use winmtr to tracert to server and leave it on for couple hrs it will show u the packetloss so u can easily see problem. issue only effects na/eu servers because of being routed through the bad path/ bad hop which cogentco has




    only way to fix it is contact your isp and ask for lvl3 tech support and get them to reroute your intern around the bad hop which is atlas.cogentco.com


    se doesnt have to acknowledge it the one who has to fix the routing issue is your isp
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaya_suzumiya View Post
    the cause of the drop outs/90k is cogentco seeing as they have from anywhere 15%-60% packet loss on there hops. the issue isnt with servers but its been with cogentco network which u would see if u use winmtr to tracert to server and leave it on for couple hrs it will show u the packetloss so u can easily see problem. issue only effects na/eu servers because of being routed through the bad path/ bad hop which cogentco has



    only way to fix it is contact your isp and ask for lvl3 tech support and get them to reroute your intern around the bad hop which is atlas.cogentco.com


    se doesnt have to acknowledge it the one who has to fix the routing issue is your isp
    I'm sorry but this is not the case. The fact that this is happening to hundreds of players across all of NA makes it much more than just a local ISP. If it was indeed a local ISP provider, you would only see complaints from a specific location on the map and the same ISP provider. This however is not the case. It is safe to assume there are atleast 20+ different ISP provider players with all of the same issue.

    This leads it to one conclusion: Based off of the starting of this problem, it clearly started acting up after SE's emergency maint. So it is indeed SE's fault for the 2002, and the terrible latency and lag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukaru View Post
    I'm sorry but this is not the case. The fact that this is happening to hundreds of players across all of NA makes it much more than just a local ISP. If it was indeed a local ISP provider, you would only see complaints from a specific location on the map and the same ISP provider. This however is not the case. It is safe to assume there are atleast 20+ different ISP provider players with all of the same issue.

    This leads it to one conclusion: Based off of the starting of this problem, it clearly started acting up after SE's emergency maint. So it is indeed SE's fault for the 2002, and the terrible latency and lag.
    He/She wasn't claiming it was a local ISP. Cogent Communications is not a localized ISP. They are one of the MAJOR transit providers that most every local ISP enters into agreements with to carry data across long distances to other ISP segments. There are a small handful of such providers compared to the vast array of local ISP's. They all interconnect at specific exchanges to hand data off to the various backbones to get us across the country, across national borders, and across the oceans.

    Cogent's network map:




    TATA's network map:




    link to level3's map(wasn't posted as a single image, but a series of layered images):
    http://maps.level3.com/default/#.U1x-W1c2lW8

    So you can have customers from any number of local ISP's affected by one specific group's routes throughout a region if that route is hitting overloaded segments and they all have subscribed to that route, which is the case here. Your local ISP buys access to routes with different partners... it is up to them to either enforce any QoS they may have with your current routing partner to get that route cleaned up, or switch you to an alternate route.
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    Last edited by Raist; 04-27-2014 at 12:54 PM.