Guy gamers who play girl characters

[Pandastirfry]

It's likely a tumblr feminist.

okay this has cropped up a couple of times so I'm just going to address it real quick... Feminism/Feminists is not an insult or dirty word. but like most "...isms" it has it's misinformed zealots/detractors. People need to stop using it as a dismissive insult...and now to step off the soap box

[Raenryong]

What it has become is certainly a dirty word.

In the context of the gaming industry it's a bunch of zealots who rush into every discussion screaming "MISOGYNY" and "WHAT ABOUT WOMEN?" when female characters have had a strong representation in games for ages now. Yes, some are written poorly - many male characters are written poorly too; it's not a unique sexist problem. Yes, they are often sexualised - and so are male characters. It's like in movies - the vast majority of the cast, male and female, have exaggerated attractiveness. That's generally just how media works. However, they are so hyper-sensitive to the "female plight" that they completely ignore all of this, and then go on to try to creep shame and use other form of shaming tactics on men to try to silence them and push their agenda.

It's just ridiculous.

[Gnova]

What it has become is certainly a dirty word.

In the context of the gaming industry it's a bunch of zealots who rush into every discussion screaming "MISOGYNY" and "WHAT ABOUT WOMEN?" when female characters have had a strong representation in games for ages now. Yes, some are written poorly - many male characters are written poorly too; it's not a unique sexist problem. Yes, they are often sexualised - and so are male characters. It's like in movies - the vast majority of the cast, male and female, have exaggerated attractiveness. That's generally just how media works. However, they are so hyper-sensitive to the "female plight" that they completely ignore all of this, and then go on to try to creep shame and use other form of shaming tactics on men to try to silence them and push their agenda.

It's just ridiculous.

I think you live in an alternate universe. What a pile of misinformation.

[Raenryong]

I think you live in an alternate universe. What a pile of misinformation.

You've substantiated your argument equally as well as every other feminist who has ever tried to argue it. Which is to say, not at all.

What on earth does 'creep shaming' mean? If someone is acting like a creep then yeah, they should be ashamed of it (though for the record, I don't think that making an attractive-looking MMO character counts as creepy, no matter what parts of its anatomy you plan to stare at). Personally, I know several women who identify as both feminists and gamers, and not one of them behaves in the manner you describe, so I don't know where you're getting your "information" from. You sound like one of those MRAs.

"Creep shaming" is when you attempt to call someone a creep to shut them down, out of context. As you say, there is such a thing as being creepy - but it's not the same as having an interest in women or liking the female form, which is how it is commonly used these days.

And that is because most feminists are very reasonable. However, a good number crusade against things like these and poison the name of feminism enough that I would strongly recommend anyone with equality in mind should identify as an egalitarian, as I do.

[Roserei]

However, they are so hyper-sensitive to the "female plight" that they completely ignore all of this, and then go on to try to creep shame and use other form of shaming tactics on men to try to silence them and push their agenda.

What on earth does 'creep shaming' mean? If someone is acting like a creep then yeah, they should be ashamed of it (though for the record, I don't think that making an attractive-looking MMO character counts as creepy, no matter what parts of its anatomy you plan to stare at). Personally, I know several women who identify as both feminists and gamers, and not one of them behaves in the manner you describe, so I don't know where you're getting your "information" from. You sound like one of those MRAs.

[Delorean]

okay this has cropped up a couple of times so I'm just going to address it real quick... Feminism/Feminists is not an insult or dirty word. but like most "...isms" it has it's misinformed zealots/detractors. People need to stop using it as a dismissive insult.

It's too much effort to recognize Feminism as something that isn't stupid. When it's brought up, it is almost always accompanied by a stupid post.

Feminists who aren't misandrists or just screaming revolution to feel like they're doing something productive with their lives are a lot more recognized under the title of feminism than people who just want the same things for women that men have.

If I was ever calling myself a feminist and it was important to me, I'd just start calling myself something else - especially in the gaming community.