Is the 0-Click Ban also extended to the first coil of bahamut?

[Worm]

and you get past that 30k with what, a tank LB or something? That seems really inconsistent, as long as it's nullified by legitimate means.

[subteraneanbird]

No. If it were a tank LB it would've been legitimate (though a tank LB likely wouldn't do it anyways, since enrage hits are usually unmitigatable specifically to avoid this). The people who got banned for cheating in T8 did some illegitimate, like bugging themselves above/below the arena to avoid Atomic Ray.

[Orophin]

I remember reading a quote from Yoshi-P where he said he didn't think that people would try something like that to beat T2. So yes, unintended is the correct syntax here.

T8 Enrage = You hit 11 minutes and he's not dead, you die. 30k to everyone's faces.

Personally I wish they had handled T2 this way, but I guess with the way T2 and T4 was designed they wanted to give people a chance at still being able to beat the encounter if they went a little longer than anticipated. At least there's no question in the new Coil turns that if you go too long it's going to be an auto-wipe.

[Worm]

No. If it were a tank LB it would've been legitimate (though a tank LB likely wouldn't do it anyways, since enrage hits are usually unmitigatable specifically to avoid this). The people who got banned for cheating in T8 did some illegitimate, like bugging themselves above/below the arena to avoid Atomic Ray.

Oh, how the hell would anyone compare the two things? That's apples and oranges.

[Sapphic]

Well the problem with Rot is that it punished melee players more than ranged. Before letting the ticks hit 0 (enrage if you like) was discovered as a method to clear turn 2, melee where being omitted from turn 2 parties because of the increased chances of wiping as opposed to all ranged. "Enrage" method allowed all DDs to do it equally.

That was the major issue of Rot. Posssibly Yoshi realized that which led to his decision to leave it as it is.

[ispano]

Well the problem with Rot is that it punished melee players more than ranged. Before letting the ticks hit 0 (enrage if you like) was discovered as a method to clear turn 2, melee where being omitted from turn 2 parties because of the increased chances of wiping as opposed to all ranged. "Enrage" method allowed all DDs to do it equally.

That was the major issue of Rot. Posssibly Yoshi realized that which led to his decision to leave it as it is.

Wait, what? It did nothing of the sort. Having two melee is a joke with Rot if people know what they are doing.

[Sapphic]

Wait, what? It did nothing of the sort. Having two melee is a joke with Rot if people know what they are doing.

So you are saying doing Rot with 2 to 4 melee is as easy as doing with 4 ranged and no DPS loss either?

Sure.

[ispano]

So you are saying doing Rot with 2 to 4 melee is as easy as doing with 4 ranged and no DPS loss either?

Sure.

4 it becomes a tiny bit hairy, but even with 3 melee it's easily doable. The distance rot passes and the distance between the two borders of ADS' Flank/Rear(ie on both sides) is plenty to avoid accidentally passing it to someone early. This is why I said people have to know what they're doing.

[saber_alter]

T8 Enrage = You hit 11 minutes and he's not dead, you die. 30k to everyone's faces.

also happens if you chose to ignore the mechanics of the fight after a two minute timer.

and you get past that 30k with what, a tank LB or something? That seems really inconsistent, as long as it's nullified by legitimate means.

he would probably keep doing it until everyone dies. look at the 2.2 trailer for reference.

[ispano]

also happens if you chose to ignore the mechanics of the fight after a two minute timer.

Indeed it does.