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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkghyom View Post
    I tank for them.
    I tried that too, but I don't last very long. When I die the group dies shortly after. I don't know how a healer can tank effectively. You can't even kite and fire like the archer and bards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foo01 View Post
    I tried that too, but I don't last very long. When I die the group dies shortly after. I don't know how a healer can tank effectively. You can't even kite and fire like the archer and bards.
    And the black mages, summoners, and dragoons. About every class can run and attack, not just archers. And believe it or not, scathe definitely hits harder than heavy shot (i.e archer's strongest move that's not a DoT and also has a passive that increases it's damage).
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    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
    And the black mages, summoners, and dragoons. About every class can run and attack, not just archers. And believe it or not, scathe definitely hits harder than heavy shot (i.e archer's strongest move that's not a DoT and also has a passive that increases it's damage).
    When I cast ruin, if I move it is interrupted. If try to cure with my WHM and I move it is interrupted. Only the archer has so many skills/spells that I can use while running at full speed and never get interrupted. I am not sure you can scathe on the move either. But perhaps I'll try some experiments, but I certainly can't cast fire or ice while on the move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foo01 View Post
    When I cast ruin, if I move it is interrupted. If try to cure with my WHM and I move it is interrupted. Only the archer has so many skills/spells that I can use while running at full speed and never get interrupted. I am not sure you can scathe on the move either. But perhaps I'll try some experiments, but I certainly can't cast fire or ice while on the move.
    Try using the moves that don't have cast times? And you clearly just showed you don't have a black mage so you probably shouldn't continue further with those examples. And archers cannot use any spell while moving. Just FYI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
    Try using the moves that don't have cast times? And you clearly just showed you don't have a black mage so you probably shouldn't continue further with those examples. And archers cannot use any spell while moving. Just FYI.
    Look at the archer skills, how many of them have a cast time of 0? See:
    http://www.ffxivguild.com/ffxiv-a-realm-reborn-archer/

    All except 1, and that is swift song.

    Now look at the THM/BLM:
    http://www.ffxivguild.com/ffxiv-a-re...n-thaumaturge/

    What can you do that is offensive, so can attack and kite at the same time? Scathe? That is it? And it has potency far lower than heavy shot. The others either all have really long cooldowns, or they are like transpose which is not for attacking. It is the same way for the Arcanist.

    So yes only archers and bards can kite and shoot effectively. And archers/bards can basically use any of their spells/skill while moving. For all effective pursposes, The odd exceptions in places does NOT change that fact.

    You can look at my profile and see that I main a SMN, but I have level 30+ WHM, BLM, and BRD. I know what plain obviously works, though I don't know all the details about the little odd things.

    BTW the melee classes that all have instant cast can't kite, because if they are running away, they are not attacking.
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    Last edited by Foo01; 05-01-2014 at 04:50 AM.