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  1. #11
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    MarsAttacks's Avatar
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    Mars Attacks
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    Midgardsormr
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    Marauder Lv 50
    It took me 6 hours to get my first atma, and 3 days total to get my last atma.

    Should never have been like that.

    While it would be harsh to those who have already obtained many atmas, I do agree the drop rate should be adjusted or other alternatives be introduced.

    For those who play together, the drop rate can sure separate friends. One could get it on first drop while the other is there for the next few days.

    My wife and I love to play this game, but she has been stuck on her last 2 atma. She has farmed 3 hours a day for the past week while I have already gotten through a few books. She has now lost a lot of interest in the game, and I have no idea if she can find anything fun to continue playing much longer.
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  2. #12
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    Mature's Avatar
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    Mature Rudlum
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    I got a friend trying right now for 3 days nonstop and only got 3 atmas... This needs sorting out ASAP
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  3. #13
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    melflomil's Avatar
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    Hazel Mimelia
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 70
    I have 8/12 ATMA now. Yes please only increase the drop rate during certain times of the day or increase it across the board. The myth point per book is fine
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  4. #14
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    ereskigal's Avatar
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    Ereskigal Irkalla
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    A nice solution to Atma's is putting it in guildhest dutie roulette.
    One a day with a random Atma.
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  5. #15
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    Shokanti's Avatar
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    Sho Kanti
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    Excalibur
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    I don't still don't see a problem with Atma, its all luck based. Back in the day of 1.0, People would spend hours/days/weeks and hours of farming dungeons of Cutter Cry and Aurum Vale for a single piece of Dark light gear that was the best. Another example, Hamlet Defense, spending hours and hours of trying to get a base item for Relic or a Rare headpiece for DoL's. The drop rate was massively horrible, extremely rare however It was fun. I understand about "friends, family have to separate" Its life. You have a Tell system, Linkshells, Free company for conversation so you won't be [Lonely]. Its a game, no need for golden spoons/silver spoons. Pay to Play not Pay to Win.
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  6. #16
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    Sir Taint
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    Behemoth
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    I'd rather farm another 12 atmas then every do Brayfox again....
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  7. #17
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    Shan'tzu Hek'taleth
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    Midgardsormr
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Shokanti View Post
    I don't still don't see a problem with Atma, its all luck based. Back in the day of 1.0, People would spend hours/days/weeks and hours of farming dungeons of Cutter Cry and Aurum Vale for a single piece of Darklight gear that was the best. Another example, Hamlet Defense, spending hours and hours of trying to get a base item for Relic or a Rare headpiece for DoL's. The drop rate was massively horrible, extremely rare however It was fun. Its a game, no need for golden spoons/silver spoons. Pay to Play not Pay to Win.
    There are plenty of items that require an end-game oriented group to achieve and take plenty of time to learn. You are comparing this game to it's 1.0 version, which was failing. To get ATMA on all your classes would take an inordinate amount of time. Most people stop at one and never look back because of how tedious it is. A community looks at it's player base's needs and adjusts when bad decisions are made.
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    Last edited by Shantzu; 04-26-2014 at 04:57 AM.

  8. #18
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    No2631's Avatar
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    Rarado Aino
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    Omega
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Shokanti View Post
    I don't still don't see a problem with Atma
    It's a game indeed, and games are meant to be fun. Introducing a quest line like the Atma weapon isn't challenging or "difficult": the new letter from the producer talks about the "difficulty" in obtaining Atma, but the entire problem is that it's not difficult. It's easy. It's just incredibly tedious and involves going through the same motions over and over again. They gave us more experience from dungeons to fix FATE grinding tedium, and now they want us to go back to that.

    The Atma system is flawed, and doesn't have a clear direction. Who is this even meant for? Hardcore players who can beat Second Coil have better options. Midcore players who can farm Leviathan EX have a much less tedious alternative. Casual players who only play one or two hours a day? Please. By the time they've got an Animus weapon, we're rocking patch 2.6.
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  9. #19
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    Shokanti's Avatar
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    Sho Kanti
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    Excalibur
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by No2631 View Post
    The Atma system is flawed.
    I do not believe it is flawed. before this patch, casual players were able to get i90 gear, relic weapon and zenith weapon with no problem? however to make atma a luck base. Flooding SE with complaints because causal players can not get it? If you work hard you will get it
    Quote Originally Posted by Shantzu View Post
    You are comparing this game to it's 1.0 version, which was failing.
    I do not agree with that statement that 1.0 was failing due to the "hard work" putting into the game. Not many players survived, however. I apologize for their misfortune of 1.0, i do hope their 2.0 experience is better. If this game was built on easy, whats the point of playing a game. Would you play a game on EASY mode instead of NORMAL or HARD mode? I'm done with this topic and I hate posting (felt irritated from players who cry over luck base) Just give the players a silver spoon and golden spoons! Pay to Win! Goodluck
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  10. #20
    Player Axlle10's Avatar
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    Axle Ten
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Shokanti View Post
    I do not believe it is flawed. before this patch, casual players were able to get i90 gear, relic weapon and zenith weapon with no problem? however to make atma a luck base. Flooding SE with complaints because causal players can not get it? If you work hard you will get it

    I do not agree with that statement that 1.0 was failing due to the "hard work" putting into the game. Not many players survived, however. I apologize for their misfortune of 1.0, i do hope their 2.0 experience is better. If this game was built on easy, whats the point of playing a game. Would you play a game on EASY mode instead of NORMAL or HARD mode? I'm done with this topic and I hate posting (felt irritated from players who cry over luck base) Just give the players a silver spoon and golden spoons! Pay to Win! Goodluck
    you say to work hard and you will get it. you dont have to work hard at all. you just have to go into mind zombie mode and not ENJOY the game for that 40-50 hours of grind. myself i am going to just grind levi ex for my weapons till they increase or make different ways to get atma. In all honesty they should have made it a boss drop from dungeons AND FATEs. more people doing either is the best way to go IMO. that way they could even keep the current rates/prices as you could do dungeons gaining everything else needed to do those.
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