@DoubleT

I am not saying a Grind perse is a bad thing, it is the way it is done with RNG that is the issue at this point. If we had a clear goal in say do 750 fates I would have no issues with it. There would be grinding, there would be time investment and for some it will be fun, for others it won't. A fair compromise if you ask me. However when RNG as it is now is in the cornor it just isn't all that fair. As others already explained in more detail, one could farm for weeks hours on end and get maybe 1 atma, while another could farm 1 day and get all 12. That to me and many others isn't fun as there is no clear goal.

@Asael,

I personally have no issues with those solutions as to me that is fun. Which is why I play games on the hardest difficulty, retry difficult encounters in games till I can do them etc. But I will agree with you on that there will always be people complaining about things, and thus so people will also complain about those solutions you posted.


@Welsper59

I get what you are trying to say however I feel that just because RNG is a Traditional System and used in many games, it does not automatically mean it is a good system. I also don't fully agree with you on this part. "It's not fun for you? Good, that's essentially the point."