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  1. #11
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    I played around with a hoard of grade 4 elemental materia I've had forever since it was worthless , I got a varity of other grade 4 materia... it seemed to be the same randomness as getting materia by soulbinding
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    Wow, thanks SE! I wake up to find all grade 1 materia selling at double the prices they were when I went to bed, and with far less on the board than before too! My days of buying grade 1 materia for spiritbonding are over now, and I sure as hell am not going to use up the ones I had already stockpiled for this useless feature. I mean, hello? Transmutation already exists in the game, and in a far better format than this silliness. It's called selling the five materia you don't want on the mb and buying the one you want with the profits.

    The way this SHOULD work is that you turn in five materia and are given two options: You can either pick which specific materia you want that is of the same grade as the average of the five OR you can take a chance and get a random materia that will always be 1 grade higher than the average grade of the five. And hey, if you turn in five grade IV materia, Mutamix will give you a random grade V materia. Make this something somebody would actually have any reason to do, please.
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    Miles Saintborough
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    People still use materia?
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    Of course materia prices go up because demand for crap materia increases.

    Seriously, give it three days (or less) for people to realize what a stupid lottery system this is, prices will normal out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elasia View Post
    I played around with a hoard of grade 4 elemental materia I've had forever since it was worthless , I got a varity of other grade 4 materia... it seemed to be the same randomness as getting materia by soulbinding
    It's not fixed to the respective pools like SBing is however, any IV will get you any IV, but SBing limits you to getting crafting materia from craft gear, gathering from gathering etc (aetheryte rings excluded obv).

    To me it seems like they're trying to shift the balance of wealth away from the craft SBers, while providing greater reward for generating materia across all levels.
    It's a little ironic that a system like SBing which utilizes RNG is the most stable method of generating wealth via crafting.
    This patch only serves to (perhaps temporarily) drive up base costs for us, but benefits the ones SBing battle-type materia as they've now an outlet for the elemental III/IVs.

    With the previous patch that saw a relatively high minimum NPC price for all materia added, direct result was 3-4x price hike compared to prepatch prices. Still workable, but forcibly designates a higher amount to the users generating all the crap materia we use in bulk. I don't think it stimulated activity like they'd perhaps hoped though? Which is why we now see this weird materia transmutation system, which only really seems useful for elemental IVs, perhaps IIIs. Everything else is mostly in the bracket where, as others mentioned, it would be more profitable to just MB them.

    As for tier Is being high atm, I'm content to just sell them off in bulk at absurdly high prices, and wait for it to normalize a week or so down the line.
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    man, there goes my spirit bonding for crafting. Hopefully this will even out when people lose interest.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidvideo View Post
    man, there goes my spirit bonding for crafting. Hopefully this will even out when people lose interest.
    I only foresee this causing a higher per sub mat crafting price as less people will be willing to sell for a lower price than before and take it out there since these markets have tended to have already been flushed out over the months with who really acts in them or not
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    Quote Originally Posted by Espritduo View Post
    Wow, thanks SE! I wake up to find all grade 1 materia selling at double the prices they were when I went to bed, and with far less on the board than before too! My days of buying grade 1 materia for spiritbonding are over now, and I sure as hell am not going to use up the ones I had already stockpiled for this useless feature.
    It couldn't possibly be a temporary thing due to people buying up materia to test out a new system, nope
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  9. #19
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    Nope, it's not.

    It's already double. It'll triple and quadruple as the next waves of advantage-seekers start putting up new materia before the fad passes. Then it will probably "normalize" back to still being twice what it was a month ago. Which is still far too rich for my blood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    Unless of course you get another elemental. I presume that would be unlikely though.
    nope you can its not a very well thought out idea more lottery bullshit and frankly quite disappointing and kinda defeats the purpose of getting rid of 5 elemental to get 1 elemental .. yay!!!
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