Rank cap increase every 1-2 years discussion thread

[Sol_Aureus]

That's what I was arguing though. If they sit at the cap and all new gear comes out as sidegrades or minor upgrades, they run the risk of people not caring about new content because it's not worth the effort. It's a lot harder to come up with good designs for new content that both doesn't obsolete old content AND doesn't come out obsolete itself.

But FFXI still managed to. When new content came out, there was always something that people wanted from the new content. Hydra wasn't camped that much, but I assume the other 2 were (I never did HNMs, so I could be completely wrong).

While they definitely run the risk of people not caring about new content if they don't raise the level cap and keep everything sidegrades, they guarantee that people will not care about the old content anymore if they do continuously raise the level cap.

[Wolfie]

But FFXI still managed to. When new content came out, there was always something that people wanted from the new content. Hydra wasn't camped that much, but I assume the other 2 were (I never did HNMs, so I could be completely wrong).

While they definitely run the risk of people not caring about new content if they don't raise the level cap and keep everything sidegrades, they guarantee that people will not care about the old content anymore if they do continuously raise the level cap.

... no it didn't. There was plenty of FFXI content that went unused or become obsolete on release because the effort wasn't worth the reward.

[Sol_Aureus]

... no it didn't. There was plenty of FFXI content that went unused or become obsolete on release because the effort wasn't worth the reward.

Personally, I don't ever recall there being a content patch in FFXI that didn't have SOMETHING that I wanted to do in it. But in any case, we're arguing opinions.

My counter to your counter:
How does raising level cap give us more content overall?

While the newer content will most likely not be obsolete on release as everything is a higher level, all the old content is now obsolete.

[Wolfie]

Personally, I don't ever recall there being a content patch in FFXI that didn't have SOMETHING that I wanted to do in it. But in any case, we're arguing opinions.

My counter to your counter:
How does raising level cap give us more content overall?

While the newer content will most likely not be obsolete on release as everything is a higher level, all the old content is now obsolete.

It doesn't. It just ensures that newly released content doesn't go unused or obsolete right from the start.

[Sol_Aureus]

It doesn't. It just ensures that newly released content doesn't go unused or obsolete right from the start.

I guess that's where we disagree. I think having more overall content is more important then ensuring that some newly released content becomes unused or obsolete from the start.

EDIT: It's more that I think having more overall content and not having all previous content and gear becoming obsolete is more important then ensuring that some newly released content becomes unused or obsolete from the start, really.

[Wolfie]

I guess that's where we disagree. I think having more overall content is more important then ensuring that some newly released content becomes unused or obsolete from the start.

EDIT: It's more that I think having more overall content and not having all previous content and gear becoming obsolete is more important then ensuring that some newly released content becomes unused or obsolete from the start, really.

More content overall in what way? Are you saying that WOW's level 60, 70, and 80 raids are not content?

[Sol_Aureus]

More content overall in what way? Are you saying that WOW's level 60, 70, and 80 raids are not content?

No, I'm not. I'm saying there's more to do overall. I never played WOW so I can't really use that as a comparison, but if they made the level 50,60, and 70 raids obsolete with the level 80 raids, I'd prefer it to be a level 50, a new level 50, a new level 50 and a new level 50. That way even the first level 50 raid was still desirable to do, because there was still gear that you wanted from it, as opposed to making that first level 50 raid completely obsolete so no one ever did it. Having 4 options for endgame content is better then having 1.