Thread: Zoidac Weapon 2.28

Yes, and tell me how good determination is for DRGs compared to crit. It's about half as effective. I've done the theorycrafting. So have others. Its a hundred percent bullshit. Higher ilvl=/=better. Animus>Liberator for dragoons.

You are literally too stupid to insult. All of you are more stubborn than an 80 year old man who is being told to go see a doctor. You pick apart every person's post and make arbitrary remarks to make what they are saying look like they want it fixed just for them. And say very arrogant things like "You're welcome for my monthly sacrifice." It is NOT fair. At all. Plain and simple. RNG is RNG. But that doesn't make it fair. Everyone should have to put the same amount of time into it. I don't care how long. The only reason this is even a two sided argument is because of people like you who got lucky, and people like me who are getting shafted. If it was the same time sink for everyone that was ridiculously long and people were complaining I would be on your side of the argument. The issue is, its not hard. And its not time consuming. Its only time consuming if rng says "screw you." To others its barely time consuming at all.

People still raging about Atma drop rates & 1.3k Myths/books on forums and reddit meanwhile some of us are already farming their 2nd Animus or 3rd.

Oh I'm sorry, did it take you 76 hours to get the atma portion of that shiny animus axe you have there? Please. You only feel the way you do because you grinded under 50 hours for all 12. Maybe a bit more. Either way, I'm currently averaging 38 hours per ATMA. And only have 2. I've put an insane amount of time into this for how long the patch has been out to be rewarded 1/20th as much as you have. THAT is not the mark of good design. If that's working as intended then my faith in Yoshi-P has went down a little today.

Originally Posted by Saerk

Here's the thing though. It's not that the people complaining about atma's want a free weapon. I have been logging my playtime when I start and stop atma farming. I am currently at 76 hours farming and only have two atmas. Two. Atma of the scorpion, and Atma of the ram. I'm in a second coil static and I consider myself to be part of the "hardcore" crowd. Unupgraded liberator is TRASH compared to Gae Bolg Animus for dragoons. And the upgraded one is only slightly better due to weapon damage. I have the time to put into the grind. And I have been. Most of the people arguing for the RNG gated atmas are people that already have atma. And I guarantee none of you have put near as much time as I have into it only to receive 2 atmas. They should not gate the best weapon for a class behind RNG. They should gate it behind content. They should have had a Gerolts Masterwork questline that involved RNG and made the relics take the item that drops from t8 instead. It would be gated behind HARD content that almost NO ONE has completed yet. Why should any player in my position have to suffer taking ludicrous amounts of time away from our raiding just to get a weapon to make sure dps is up to par? I was fine with the atma grind until about hour 40 with only 2 atmas. If they do not change the atma drop rate (The book part is fine where its at) I will be sorely disappointed. Anyone that tells me that I'm wrong here that has atma and didn't spend at least as much time getting it as I have to only be 1/6th the way there is honestly just being a dick.

It's all RNG. Coil drops are RNG.

Book Segment; 3x FATE, 3x Leve, 3x Dungeon, 10x 10x Monsters; 2~3+ hours

Depending on your luck, the bolded can be per FATE.

Animus/Atma is a failure of a system because it's just a way for SE to try and force players back into old content (+ myth/rng grind).

Why they didn't just you know, make a new questline with actually unique instanced trials/raids which would actually be entertaining I don't know.

Originally Posted by Prototype909

Animus/Atma is a failure of a system because it's just a way for SE to try and force players back into old content (+ myth/rng grind).

Why they didn't just you know, make a new questline with actually unique instanced trials/raids which would actually be entertaining I don't know.

Time and money.

Originally Posted by Mcshiggs

Time and money.

Oh boo hoo they might have to actually design some content worth a damn for a part of the game that's supposedly meant to be this epically involved questline that just amounts to a time sink.