[Poll] What Job should Conjurer unlock?

[zaviermhigo]

My thing is to make thm a blm takes retconning for those of you who don't read comics retconning is where you go back in the lore and you change the story so it fits a most recent plot. THM have an astral guild in uldah, the average person doesn't know this. To make them a whm is easy taking into account the astral guild. To make a conjurer a black mage lore wise is easy because they specialize in elements.

[_C-a-e-r-i-t-h_]

I think the first fatal flaw in your thought process, and many other posters as well, is that with absolutely no no backing, so many people claim to know lore.

I've done the quests for Conjurer and Thaumaturge. I've also done the story quests for Ul'Dah and Gridania. I see from your signature that you're from Gridania, so you probably didn't do the Ul'Dah storyline.

The Ul'Dah storyline is heavily tied to the thaumaturges. (That's the lore.)
The conjurer guild is a bunch of hippies talking about elementals. (That's lore too.)

You say the fatal flaw of my argument is that I don't know the lore. If talking to every NPC, reading the little books and whatnot, and doing a bunch of quests related to both the Thaumaturges and Conjurers does not expose one to lore, then what does?

Unless you can link this to some FFXIV lore, I call shannannagins. I don't care what happened in FFXI, FFV, FFVI, FFVII, FVIII, or any other FF series game. At no point has a dev or anyone else "in the know" stated one games lore applies to this one.

Now I admit, I see the point you are making, as well as the lgic behind it. As far as the WHM/BLM link to conjurer, I see that. I do not see the link between WHM and THM at all. Having done all the quest related to THM quest. Now your whole "process of elimination" theory only holds water in your mind. Your pigeon holing the devs options as many are. I admit I am appauled by the amount of people trying to limit the devs only options of game development to making FFXI - 2.

THM could be a necromancer, or a blue mage. They already take from mobs in the form of taps, absorbs, and siphons. Its reasonable to allow the idea of them absorbing abilities as well. Shaman is am option for both classes.

Now I am not saying as a whole, that you are either wrong or right. I am simply saying that by claiming the devs only have the option of either WHM or BLM is where the fatal flaw lies. I personally feel that all too many are pigeon holing there options, by claiming lore this or lore that. I would like to see people actually know FFXIV lore before they use it, because there isn't much of it out there yet, oddly that doesn't stop people from claiming to know it, use it, or make it up as they go along.

The devs have said that there is initially going to be one job per class. They have also said that the upcoming jobs include White Mage and Black Mage. If Conjurer gets Black Mage, then, tell me, who gets White Mage?

My arguments are based on facts. Facts in the lore and facts stated by the devs and in interviews. Your argument is that because THM has Siphon MP it should get Necromancer and Blue Mage.

The game's still free. Make a new character and play through Ul'Dah 1-20. See if you change your mind about the lore. If not, well, that's on you.

My thing is to make thm a blm takes retconning for those of you who don't read comics retconning is where you go back in the lore and you change the story so it fits a most recent plot. THM have an astral guild in uldah, the average person doesn't know this. To make them a whm is easy taking into account the astral guild. To make a conjurer a black mage lore wise is easy because they specialize in elements.

Yes. I don't think they'll be retconning, but the foundation to connect the class and job pairs is already there for anyone who paid attention.