Possible Alternative to current Atma?

[SionDurant]

Inconsistent... You want to retain RNG (50% is still RNG), but you don't want RNG...

50% to clarify I mean that you have a 50/50 chance on each Fate to get the fragment, that's not RNG that's a set increment.

[Nekodar]

50% to clarify I mean that you have a 50/50 chance on each Fate to get the fragment, that's not RNG that's a set increment.

Chance... 50%... still RNG...
Granted, less than 0.1% chance that you go 10 fates without getting a fragment, but RNG is RNG.
If you mean 50% on first try and 100% on second, say that instead.

[SionDurant]

Chance... 50%... still RNG...
Granted, less than 0.1% chance that you go 10 fates without getting a fragment, but RNG is RNG.
If you mean 50% on first try and 100% on second, say that instead.

RNG is random number generation.

A set increment is not a set of random numbers, I'm just saying, not to be rude.

This is also years of nerdery with dice roller builds talking by the way (Text Based RPGer and former developer).

[Xandim]

RNG is random number generation.

A set increment is not a set of random numbers, I'm just saying, not to be rude.

This is also years of nerdery with dice roller builds talking by the way (Text Based RPGer and former developer).

Its just that from what you said it appeared that after getting gold you'd have 50% chance to get an atma fragment, which is still a RNG. But if you have 50% and if you don't get it the next fate will have 100% chance, than yeah, its different =P

[SionDurant]

Its just that from what you said it appeared that after getting gold you'd have 50% chance to get an atma fragment, which is still a RNG. But if you have 50% and if you don't get it the next fate will have 100% chance, than yeah, its different =P

Yeah I shouldn't have said 50%, I edited it. But basically it's a set interval, not a possibility of 1, 2, 3, 4, 55, 60, 1 etc per fate.

It's either pass/fail, or for sake of numbers 0/100.

[Shaone]

Chance... 50%... still RNG...
Granted, less than 0.1% chance that you go 10 fates without getting a fragment, but RNG is RNG.
If you mean 50% on first try and 100% on second, say that instead.

Yep, if they want a "korean grind" system, why not just say "20 fragments with 100% drop rate".

Anyway, any proposals like this simply compress the size of the bell curve for FATEs vs atma, up to the most extreme version (as in 100% drop rate) simply being a fixed number of FATEs.

Personally, I think they might as well just make Atmas tradeable (which would mean sellable by default, so might as well add them to market boards too). The thing that really, really bugs me about the quest is that I can't do the first part with friends without whoever gets the first drop either being penalised and hanging around or splitting with the rest of the group to work on next Atma. If they were tradeable, then your party could stay in a zone until there have been drops for all who need them, trade them around so everyone has one, then move on to the next zone. But I know that's a crazy concept for an MMO, making an open world parties of friends to reach a goal together and help each other out! Maybe I should lay off the Moko grass.

Responsible disclosure: I got my last 5 Atma in about an hour, BUT I do want to get other Atma weapons, and I probably used this decades luck allowance up now.