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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by i2agnarok View Post
    Wow, what am I even reading?

    ...American cartoons? Really? Social networks are about the same as giving someone a noose and letting them hang themselves. That's more attune to not having a shred of common sense than being directly influenced by anything.

    I was in Crystal Tower last night and during the Bone Dragon, a Black Mage just starts laying into all of the skeletons with AOEs (triple flare, according to the Alliance chat). A tank in another group said, word for word, "[character name], let the tanks get the skeletons into position before you unleash triple flares." The response, which I found so hilarious because it was SO unnecessarily hostile, was "what am i supposed to do dumbass? get off your period im used to doing this on my monk."

    I am fairly certain that the anonymous nature of the internet and a uniform lack of common courtesy while using it are a cause of this, not because of American cartoons. You realize that this sort of categorization is what causes gamers to have such terrible reputations in the first place, right?
    I found your style of speech to be offensive - culture of arguing about everything (especially opinions). It is easy to find something said that is either opinion or not entirely correct and argue over it, but is it either a joke (a funny one, not insulting) or a contribution to the discussion? This is also true about social networks where people try to defend the majority-accepted opinion ("there may be only one truth") about a certain topic by a quite rude way of arguing (trying to prove each other to be wrong).
    Now many people think that being rude means being cool (i will punch you like a badass, i will speak to you like a badass). Probably many think that being rude means being convincing and successful - this does not work when dealing with mature people, thus only conclusion i have is it was advertised to younger audience through some kind of teen-oriented media. This later led to the culture of arguing over everything.
    I do lack courtesy and am anonymous over internet to a certain point, but neither me or people i communicate with use the offensive speech. If you say it's common among other groups - i think it's not because they are in the internet. But because there is some other very major factor that causes this, yet that factor is so common noone notices it.
    But is is just my guess and i am not sure if it is correct or not. Only thing i am sure is that many people communicate in an unproductive way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lxSch View Post
    I found your style of speech to be offensive
    Well, I find your style of speech (and grammar) to be offensive. You can't just assert all of this based on how they come off to you. I am still scratching my head as to why you think American Cartoons are the reason for rude attitudes.
    Also, you're not exactly being productive yourself. This isn't exactly graded debate in a culture class here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lxSch View Post
    I found your style of speech to be offensive - culture of arguing about everything (especially opinions).
    I do lack courtesy and am anonymous over internet to a certain point, but neither me or people i communicate with use the offensive speech. If you say it's common among other groups - i think it's not because they are in the internet. But because there is some other very major factor that causes this, yet that factor is so common noone notices it.

    But is is just my guess and i am not sure if it is correct or not. Only thing i am sure is that many people communicate in an unproductive way.
    My issue is on where you think the origin of this behavior stems from because I find it to be problematic in today's society. I don't particularly care about proving you wrong, but I think you should take some food for thought, if you will. You will probably find a greater correlation between people that are being rude, spiteful, and overall trying to be rude when they have the anonymity of the internet behind them than you will over a group of people trying that watch these American cartoons that you speak of. I was once in an awkward situation where I was playing a game with someone from my school that I hung out with semi-regularly, who was also an extremely abusive person over the internet or telephone while not being either of these things in person. In fact, I didn't know that this individual was the same person until much later. Small world.

    Whether or not it is considered to be "cool" or not is totally up the nature of the environment, but I can assure you that it is not because of someone that watches American cartoons. There may be varying degrees of behavioral reinforcement after seeing these things re-enacted through other media, but from my experience, if you are so easily influenced by these sorts of things, there is a much deeper rooted issue and while these things may be smaller parts of the problem, they are most likely not the direct cause.

    I am not a homicidal maniac because I play games where I run around as a ninja decapitating people for rewards.

    I strongly disagree with your opinion. You're entitled to it as I am to mine. If anyone takes anything away from the resulting conversation, then I would say it is productive, and that is why I am calling you out on it. Its nothing as personal as it seems.
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