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    Staris's Avatar
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    Staris Fate
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    Ultros
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    So Summmoners don't ressurect people
    DPS casters dont use virus or apothasistitis whatevermagiky, or eye for an eye
    Monks / Bards dont use mantra, mana song, or anything like that
    ect ect

    Because that doesn't help them dps right?

    Bads who cannot see outside there role to the maximum of the potential of there class for the group will always be bad.
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Staris View Post
    Bads who cannot see outside there role to the maximum of the potential of there class for the group will always be bad.
    My intent was to at least indicate that there is a grade a player can achieve between these two points, and not just "Yay, you're awesome!" and "OMG YOU'RE HORRIBLE". Just because you aren't making full use off your toolbox doesn't mean you're a bad player, it just means you're performing your role, but you can continue to improve. There are just too many condescending and meaningless posts screaming "YOU'RE BAD IF YOU ONLY HEAL" or "YOU'RE BAD IF YOU DPS AS HEALER" that I wanted to make a vain attempt to at least quell those remarks by injecting some form of logic into it (keyword, vain).

    For myself, I am not content with my playing until I can optimize the majority of my toolbox myself. However, for some people, they are okay with just being "okay" and as long as I'm tanking and I'm not a bloody smear on the ground, I'm okay with that from a healer (though I may have varying degrees of ire that I keep to myself depending on how often my HP hits the flashing point and for how long).

    This isn't a two sided coin we're discussing here, this is a scale with every grey area in between the minimum and maximum points.
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    Last edited by Ghishlain; 04-22-2014 at 09:01 PM. Reason: character limit

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    Everdark's Avatar
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    I'zual Neverdark
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Staris View Post
    So Summmoners don't ressurect people
    DPS casters dont use virus or apothasistitis whatevermagiky, or eye for an eye
    Monks / Bards dont use mantra, mana song, or anything like that
    ect ect

    Because that doesn't help them dps right?

    Bads who cannot see outside there role to the maximum of the potential of there class for the group will always be bad.
    most DPS actually do exactly this, especially in DF. The only time DPS put in the effort to be "good" is with statics
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    sheldorAFK's Avatar
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    Kokoro Koro
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    Goblin
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    Conjurer Lv 43
    I am not new to MMOs but I am new to playing a healer. I've never wanted to have that much responsibility before. If DPS is lackluster you can get better gear or tune-up your rotation. If healing isn't up to snuff the entire party could wipe. For some reason though upon joining FFxiv the first class I began to level was conjurer and I've really been enjoying it. Yet, whenever this argument comes up I begin to have questions.

    I PUG almost exclusively. I've never been told my healing sucks. I've never been told I should be DPSing. Sometimes I have to work my butt off just to keep the tank alive. Sometimes I have time to use my target of target macros to do a little damage or lay down dots. But when I read someone saying 'in 4 man content' if a healer is 'only healing' they are 'bad' I have to wonder do they mean the level 50 overgeared folk or those who are on level for the dungeon as well? (I don't have a 50 yet so am still going into some of these dungeons for the first time.)
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