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    Quote Originally Posted by Chinook View Post
    Oh yeah, should have figured out that you'd fight someone who wanted to see their character progress while enjoying content ...
    they arent asking to enjoy content
    they are asking for more sp per kill while grinding and to make grinding more fun(you just cant do this, its imposible)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    well, it is just killing faster

    and again, it goes back to what i was saying

    you just want more sp per kill
    ILL TYPE IN CAPS IN CASE YOU CANT SEE IT, I NEVER SAID MORE SP!!! Balanced. by balanced i dont care if they lower sp in other aspects of the game as long as it balanced. Stop taking things out of context and putting words in my mouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    ILL TYPE IN CAPS IN CASE YOU CANT SEE IT, I NEVER SAID MORE SP!!! Balanced. by balanced i dont care if they lower sp in other aspects of the game as long as it balanced. Stop taking things out of context and putting words in my mouth.
    skill chains =/= balance, they = more sp

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    skill chains =/= balance, they = more sp
    Yea sorry making a suggestion that would encourage skillful pay instead of endless 1 mashing or after 1.18 well be able to run into battle and not hit any buttons. what the hell was i thinking. Im not talking about giving a 100% bonus for skillful play. 20% would be good and yes that would be in balance team a 30,000 an hour for spamming 1 team b +20% 36,000 that is balance
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    Yea sorry making a suggestion that would encourage skillful pay instead of endless 1 mashing or after 1.18 well be able to run into battle and not hit any buttons. what the hell was i thinking. Im not talking about giving a 100% bonus for skillful play. 20% would be good and yes that would be in balance team a 30,000 an hour for spamming 1 team b +20% 36,000 that is balance
    your not asking for a bonus for skillful play though
    thats just a straight bonus sp
    speed killing when grinding isnt about skill, its about killing quick


    skil requires fight mechanics, not killin fast

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    Wait, how is speed killing any more skillful than "button mashing"? The high EXP chain exp and merit parties in FFXI rarely involved any significant skill; items, merits, and job composition were the deciding factors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    your not asking for a bonus for skillful play though
    thats just a straight bonus sp
    speed killing when grinding isnt about skill, its about killing quick


    skil requires fight mechanics, not killin fast
    Agreed, what we need is a boost to the SP that open world mobs with higher difficulty give. So that, for example, coblyns which take like 3 hits to kill on a bad day aren't the best SP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    your not asking for a bonus for skillful play though
    thats just a straight bonus sp
    speed killing when grinding isnt about skill, its about killing quick


    skil requires fight mechanics, not killin fast
    your right its not about skill, that's the problem, and it should be. that's my point. The reason things are killed so fast is because of the 10sp lvl cap(no point in killing tough mobs) but im not gonna get into that right now. Id rather grind and really have to pay attention to the fight then sit there and spam one and hit random WS.
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    I think it would be fun if we had gauntlet type things to do in parties. Swarms of mobs attacking your party all at once and having to get things defeated before reinforcements arrive. Maybe if they add the hamlet defenses they could be like this and give good exp for parties.

    Edit: I also like the idea of not having to hold back on aoes and such. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldaena View Post
    I think it would be fun if we had gauntlet type things to do in parties. Swarms of mobs attacking your party all at once and having to get things defeated before reinforcements arrive. Maybe if they add the hamlet defenses they could be like this and give good exp for parties.

    Edit: I also like the idea of not having to hold back on aoes and such. lol
    i was also thinking if these released onto you in waves perhaps or even one at time, it would be cool to have something were each mob was a lvl higher then the last (taking away the 10lvl sp cap of course) and just see how long you last. there could be an achievement for time lasted and lvl reached. this doesn't fit in with my general original idea but would still be interesting. now ill have to listen to 100 people tell me why this is a bad idea.
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