Loot Restrictions On i90 and Above Gear/Weapons

[Obysuca]

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Not sure why I hit 4 and didn't realize it but yeah lol Not annoyed at the player, just annoyed that theres that chance they may never level it, because we all know those types of people who do it just because they can :/

It'd just be nice if people used common sense (someone who can use it now and help runs better) over their own greedy desires (glamour/just because) :/ Reminds me of those people back in Brayflox who'd come in as a 50 mage hitting need on battlemage's just for glamour (that was months away then) over the people who are actually lvling a mage that lvl who ACTUALLY need the gear


Also, to comment on the people saying "You should just come ____ then" This is a mmo, not a single player game, sometimes you can't just come a certain job, especially if someone in the pt, for example, asks if anyone can be a tank and let's say you can, and they have a DD who can join and it'd fill up the pt and you can get on with whatever you're doing. Since it's a mmo and you're playing with actual people, you shouldn't be selfish and go "Nope, not changing", the correct thing to do is "Sure, why not" because you know, it helps the party and actually gets crap done. I've seen way too many people who are selfish and flat out refuse to change jobs if it'll help the party, or they just drop out of it, causing the wait to be much longer than it needs to be. People seem to forget this. Semi-off topic, but this is one of the many reasons people talk about how bad the XIV community is (it really is, worse I've seen imo).

[Farah]

Whee!~

I understand the frustration, but I look at it as if those levels are never there. I don't search people after a run to see if they are going to use the gear they just got. I feel what they do with the gear is none of my business, just like the level of their classes is none of my business.

I really love the battlemage set, so i farmed brayflox with my friends for it before I ever leveled a magic class. I now have a lvl 44 black mage, who has spent most of its time in that battlemage set. I love that set, and I don't blame anyone who wants it. I guess I'm just more relaxed than other people about gear, because I know I'll eventually get it cause I will keep running til i get it.

I don't get mad at other people because they are probably really happy they got that gear. They may not use it like you intend to, but they wanted it just like you did. If someone told me I didn't deserve the gear that I rolled on and worked for the same as you, I would be pretty upset. I won't tell you that you don't deserve the gear, and you should show me the same courtesy. That's how I view it.

[Obysuca]

I understand the frustration, but I look at it as if those levels are never there. I don't search people after a run to see if they are going to use the gear they just got. I feel what they do with the gear is none of my business, just like the level of their classes is none of my business.

I check what jobs they have for various reasons. Let's say if they're on blm and they're pulling tons of hate and dying. I'd check to see if they have brd lvled so I can ask them to use quelling strikes and if they don't then I'd suggest to level it, since it's useful to have. Another reason is if we lack a certain job, to check if someone's able to change to it so we can fill up the party and do the content, instead of waiting for a while and having people leave the party, because for some reason, everyone is so impatient these days.

[skaterger]

It'd just be nice if people used common sense (someone who can use it now and help runs better) over their own greedy desires (glamour/just because) :/ Reminds me of those people back in Brayflox who'd come in as a 50 mage hitting need on battlemage's just for glamour (that was months away then) over the people who are actually lvling a mage that lvl who ACTUALLY need the gear

If I'm level 50 and I'm running brayflox for no other reason than solely the battlemage set, then I am supposed to pass on it if it drops if there is another caster in the party, totally voiding my 30 minutes spent running the instance? In this case, we both ran the instance for one reason and one only, me for the vanity, the other caster for exp and loot. Why is the 30 minutes i spend somehow less valuable than the other player? Not to mention that the other caster still gets experience even if he does not win the loot, and gear at that level is easily replaceable every 3-4 levels. Please think before you type, this kinda self righteous post just irks me to no end.

[Obysuca]

If I'm level 50 and I'm running brayflox for no other reason than solely the battlemage set, then I am supposed to pass on it if it drops if there is another caster in the party, totally voiding my 30 minutes spent running the instance? In this case, we both ran the instance for one reason and one only, me for the vanity, the other caster for exp and loot. Why is the 30 minutes i spend somehow less valuable than the other player? Not to mention that the other caster still gets experience even if he does not win the loot, and gear at that level is easily replaceable every 3-4 levels. Please think before you type, this kinda self righteous post just irks me to no end.

Because in the real world, we call that being a douche. Same thing applies online, don't think you can pull dick moves like that for your own selfishness over people who actually need the gear to level in just because no one knows who you are.



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What are you using to justify that levelling is more important than glamour?

A) Using gear to level increases stats, thus increasing the efficiency of running a dungeon/fight
B) Using gear for glamour does absolutely nothing for your stats or how a dungeon/fight goes.

[skaterger]

Because in the real world, we call that being a douche. Same thing applies online, don't think you can pull dick moves like that for your own selfishness over people who actually need the gear to level in just because no one knows who you are.

This is as real a world as we can get missy. And in the real world, calling people douches without substantiating your point makes you look like a complete imbecile. You have yet to answer my question. Why is my 30 minutes spent in the dungeon somehow less valuable than the other player?. And before you spout any of that leveling gear crap, I have addressed that issue which you so conveniently chose to ignore. Just for laughs, I'll give you one more point to ponder. What are you using to justify that levelling is more important than glamour? What about those people whose sole focus in the game is to collect all the loot from lower level dungeons. Please don't be so selfish to disregard these group of players whose main focus is glamour and perhaps you need a mirror to look at yourself before calling others greedy and selfish.

[Farah]

I check what jobs they have for various reasons. Let's say if they're on blm and they're pulling tons of hate and dying. I'd check to see if they have brd lvled so I can ask them to use quelling strikes and if they don't then I'd suggest to level it, since it's useful to have. Another reason is if we lack a certain job, to check if someone's able to change to it so we can fill up the party and do the content, instead of waiting for a while and having people leave the party, because for some reason, everyone is so impatient these days.

The point is, if you are checking their info, it shouldn't be to justify you having gear over them. If you are doing it for pointers to help them be a better blm, that's great. I feel like the people laying claim to gear are impatient. I'm not claiming gear is mine because I have a lvl 50 alt. If someone else wins the drop, I do the dungeon again. Everyone should have EQUAL opportunity in a dungeon.

People also keep skipping over the fact that you can make a party and ESTABLISH A LOOT AGREEMENT WHICH IS REPORTABLE IF BROKEN. If you run on healer but want dps gear, if you ask the party for the gear BEFORE running the dungeon and they all agree to let you have it, it is a LOOT AGREEMENT. If someone rolls greed after that has been established, it is REPORTABLE. Idk how many times I've said that.

Why is my 30 minutes spent in the dungeon somehow less valuable than the other player?

Thank you. I can't stand it when people just keep skipping over that point. I spent a long time looking for a specific item, and if it drops with a less geared person (who lets say only has done this run once) in the party, I am required to let them have it. I actually am a gear collector. That other person can run the dungeon again, just like i did. My time and effort running the dungeon is the EXACT SAME as the other person, so i should have the EXACT SAME chance at loot. Why do people keep trying to justify it with "undergeared alt" should have the drop, then switching to say "only lvl 50s" get drop. Either my lvl 44 blm deserves the drop for gearing up, or your lvl 50 blm you arent playing on deserves the drop because it's lvl 50 and can use it right away. Clear this up people.

With the reasoning they keep saying I could be really selfish and keep laying claim to something by going "Oh my lvl 50 undergeared alt needs that" and according to them it would be justified and i would deserve it more than anyone else in party. How does that not seem wrong?