Something everyone seems to forget, is that for every ONE person who complains. your going to get another dozen who just never come back. But before anyone gets all over me I know of at least 4 people in my friends list who are not coming back due to the terrible rng, lottery that is atma framing, and ok its great to say that there are alternatives but if you cant clear titan ex, there goes one option, and the other two you have to clear t5 and get to the tier in second coils, so till you get either of those your sort of screwed. But also lets not forget you need the tomestone AND the sands of time to get the better version of your class weapon.

so for everyone spouting that there are better alternatives, yes there are but if you have both of those road blocks your dead in the water and can only get atma weapons(if you get all your stones). but something else i would like to point out is that the zenith and the atma are the same, the only difference is ilvl....