Community misconceptions in regards to Atma

[Gelesto]

Also, the argument that I can do it because others have is false. I'm at the mercy of RNG and no amount of me doing FATEs will make me more or less likely to get one.

How is it false? of course you can do it if other people have it shows its not broken and can be accomplished. doing more fates does make you more likely to get one, what are you doing? logging on doing a fate, get the normal reward then log off in a mood? if something has a drop rate akin to 5% you don't go well i did 20 fates and have not one! its clearly broken!
That is not how drop rates work you keep at it or do something else

[AmyNeudaiz]

How is it false? of course you can do it if other people have it shows its not broken and can be accomplished. doing more fates does make you more likely to get one, what are you doing? logging on doing a fate, get the normal reward then log off in a mood? if something has a drop rate akin to 5% you don't go well i did 20 fates and have not one! its clearly broken!
That is not how drop rates work you keep at it or do something else

When I complete a 1% attempt at something, my next attempt will be at 1%. This comes to mind to make my point

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEiXEeBmIqU


If you still don't understand, I am saying that because it's RNG one can do it infinitely and still not get it done.

[Gelesto]

When I complete a 1% attempt at something, my next attempt will be at 1%. This comes to mind to make my point

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEiXEeBmIqU


If you still don't understand, I am saying that because it's RNG one can do it infinitely and still not get it done.

Thats right the % chance of you obtaining it will always remain the same you may grind for hours and not get one or may may do 1 fate and get one.
The video you posted is scripted to always be heads so that point is null and void
and as for doing something infinitely and never getting it is absurd,If you did something an infinate amount of times you get an infinite amount in return MATHS if something is RNG then it provides you with the chance of obtaining it, not the chance of not obtaining it

most of the people i have spoken with this evening have said they liked the random factor as a part of the atma relic stage, as it made them feel a sense of accomplishment, its always nice to get a rare drop but also felt the grind for Myth afterwards to be a pain, and the rest of people were not too fond of the RNG but find the myth grind for books to be better than that of the FATE grind.

People like content differently some like the grind with a chance of getting something rare and others like the certainty for the time they put in, 2.2 has both of these for the relic quest (and for Levi EX weapons).
Appreciate that others may not enjoy what you enjoy and that you may not enjoy what others enjoy

[AmyNeudaiz]

The video you posted is scripted to always be heads so that point is null and void
and as for doing something infinitely and never getting it is absurd, If you did something an infinate amount of times you get an infinite amount in return MATHS if something is RNG then it provides you with the chance of obtaining it, not the chance of not obtaining it

Also, yes it is statistically possible to never, ever, ever get something with even a 99% chance because that 1% exists RNG can fall on that endlessly. I am not here to debate mathmatics though, I am here to tell you that I am representing a portion of the community that does not like this and that most people who debate against it misrepresent our arguments.

I wouldn't even care if I was 1% of the community so YOUR argument is null and void in this thread.

To be further clear to you on a point you keep bringing up. No amount of "the people I come across" will change my opinion. Anecdotal evidence holds no water because I can turn around and say the exact same thing with the same level of authority.

[Gelesto]

Also, yes it is statistically possible to never, ever, ever get something with even a 99% chance because that 1% exists RNG can fall on that endlessly.

I see so its scripted that you never receive an atma, funny that with all those people with theirs.
if you do something endlessly you get an endless amount of results 1% x Infinity = the same as 100% x Infinity

although its rather amusing how your taking it rather personally and coming across in the process

[AmyNeudaiz]

I see so its scripted that you never receive an atma, funny that with all those people with theirs.
if you do something endlessly you get an endless amount of results 1% x Infinity = the same as 100% x Infinity

although its rather amusing how your taking it rather personally and coming across in the process

You are really oblivious to what I'm pointing out with the video. If a coin lands on heads 10, 20, 40, 80, 160, 220, 440, 880, 1720 times over does not mean it is more or less likely to land on tails. You're grabbing at straws with my point, saying I'm comparing it to a scripted event and now making assumptions about my tone over the internet. Such good debating skills.

[Gelesto]

You are really oblivious to what I'm pointing out with the video. If a coin lands on heads 10, 20, 40, 80, 160, 220, 440, 880, 1720 times over does not mean it is more or less likely to land on tails. You're grabbing at straws with my point, saying I'm comparing it to a scripted event and now making assumptions about my tone over the internet. Such good debating skills.

I'm sorry but you realise that the video you posted was always going to be head because the game developers programmed it that way
The Atma are not scripted to never drop are you oblivious to this point?