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[ariaandkia]

Yet they refused to work with the other's outside of the pre-formed 5. And they were not interested in learning. They wanted carries... The non-preformed members were trying to tell them that learning the fight is the carry. They didn't want to hear it.

So from what I understand, they wanted to learn, but you didn't want to teach them and you felt that it was a burden to have to teach them?

[Sensyon]

So from what I understand, they wanted to learn, but you didn't want to teach them and you felt that it was a burden to have to teach them?

You did not understand at all apparently. Literally, everything I've been saying is the exact opposite of what you just asked. I mean, wow. You're not even close. The three of us that were not preformed WANTED to teach them. They just wanted the carry. What they were doing was not good enough with their gear, plus Echo buff to win. I can prove it... We did not win...

[ariaandkia]

You did not understand at all apparently. Literally, everything I've been saying is the exact opposite of what you just asked. I mean, wow. You're not even close. The three of us that were not preformed WANTED to teach them. They just wanted the carry. What they were doing was not good enough with their gear, plus Echo buff to win. I can prove it... We did not win...

Ok, cus your wording was a little odd in that post for me.

And "We did not win" doesn't mean that they weren't doing the right thing. Did they SAY that they wanted a carry? If not, then how can you prove that they wanted to be carried and weren't actually, you know, trying to beat it?

Maybe it was you three who had the wrong idea of how to beat it and it was you guys that were screwing up the run and not them?

I know that if I were to play the same way with EVERY group, I'd be failing most of my instances. Instead, I adjust to the group the best I can. This is especially important as a GLD at low levels since honestly, if I didn't aggro would go everywhere instead of at me.

[Sensyon]

Ok, cus your wording was a little odd in that post for me.

And "We did not win" doesn't mean that they weren't doing the right thing. Did they SAY that they wanted a carry? If not, then how can you prove that they wanted to be carried and weren't actually, you know, trying to beat it?

Maybe it was you three who had the wrong idea of how to beat it and it was you guys that were screwing up the run and not them?

Yes, the WHM told us with a 50% Echo Buff, it was impossible to lose and that everyone was "Getting carried by Square". In all honesty, I did think we could do it, because of Echo, but when I suggested to the 3 BLMs to use Sprint to help with dodging the plumes, he told them not to worry about it as we can eat the plumes now. For the record, my strat was to dodge the plumes and landslides and burn down the Gaols, then focus on the boss. He also kept walking off the edge...

[Seshayn]

You did not understand at all apparently. Literally, everything I've been saying is the exact opposite of what you just asked. I mean, wow. You're not even close. The three of us that were not preformed WANTED to teach them. They just wanted the carry. What they were doing was not good enough with their gear, plus Echo buff to win. I can prove it... We did not win...

Frankly, it's painfully obvious that you are the one who does not understand. You come to the forums looking to garner support for an idea you have that is based on personal experience and emotion more than logic, when told many times and in many ways WHY your idea is terrible, you play the "I'm so misunderstood" card and the classic "Well, you just don't understand me" trick. I tried to be nice about it before, but now I will say it plain.

Your idea is bad. Come up with a new one. Or don't.

[Sensyon]

Frankly, it's painfully obvious that you are the one who does not understand. You come to the forums looking to garner support for an idea you have that is based on personal experience and emotion more than logic, when told many times and in many ways WHY your idea is terrible, you play the "I'm so misunderstood" card and the classic "Well, you just don't understand me" trick. I tried to be nice about it before, but now I will say it plain.

Your idea is bad. Come up with a new one. Or don't.

Nope, I don't agree. I "played the 'I'm so misunderstood' card", as you put it, because the statement was the exact opposite of what I had described. He/she pretty much described something that never happened, but he/she made it seem like I described it as such. That comment I made was to inform them(you started with, "let me get this straight" or something like that, right?) that they did not get it straight. Also, Aria commented on it and we were on the same page. Even if she didn't agree.

All good, though. Thanks for your input. I'm not trying to anger you. And I agreed with Odd's suggestion. Also, the second sentence of my first post admitted that there's a better solution within the community. So, we're all good. Think we can close this one out and call it a day. Also, funny enough, I agreed with your first post. Gave you a like on it. Thought it was very helpful. So, no real need to get any more plain.