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  1. #51
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    Odett's Avatar
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    Odett Telos
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Knowing when to move and what skills to use beforehand is arguably what separates a decent BLM from a good BLM. BLMs may have a simple rotation, but we have to know the right time to use certain skills. You can open up with Thunder III by measuring the tank's running speed to the boss and have a long cast spell be used as an opener. On the other hand, using T3 instead of T2 for the rest of the fight would be inefficient, and in rare cases T2 as well. There are cases like In Titan EX where you'd rather get in a Thunder 1 because you know your Thunder 2 will be interrupted due to having to move very soon. There are also skills you can use to bypass having to move, like Manawall for landslides. When you're on the move, always use Scathe.

    When you're a BLM, you'll notice that your DPS will be in its worst stage when learning a fight, as you're not sure what's coming next, but once you learn to anticipate things, your DPS will skyrocket once again. Use Sprint to get out and in as fast as possible, and using Procs while on the move is also a good idea, but don't let them sit there for a long time either. I personally like saving my SC for a ~500mp Flare and quickly Transposing for an instant surge of Umbral Ice, but if you know that the time you'll have to use up casting a long Fire 3 will get in the way of a mechanic, then don't do so. BLM is all about thinking ahead.
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    Last edited by Odett; 04-18-2014 at 10:03 PM.

  2. #52
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    ReplicaX's Avatar
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    Methos Ranperre
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    Knowing when to move and what skills to use beforehand is arguably what separates a decent BLM from a good BLM.

    When you're a BLM, you'll notice that your DPS will be in its worst stage when learning a fight, as you're not sure what's coming next, but once you learn to anticipate things, your DPS will skyrocket once again.
    ^ QFT

    The suggestion of this thread would require a total rebalance of the job and other mechanics like Sprint removed for BLM in combat or penalized. The big thing it would remove is the classic Burst Dmg of the job IMO.
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  3. #53
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    Gormogon's Avatar
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    Gormogon Maxwell
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    How to move as a BLM

    1.) When cast bar is at its last .2 seconds you can strafe a small margin of distance or just jump in said direction.
    2.) When you get Thundercloud and Firestarter procs use them as you move.
    3.) When you Blizzard III when very low on Mana usually at less than 300 mana you have time to move.
    4.) If the enemy has a long cast timer for his ability. As you are finishing your casts click someone from your group and Aetherial Manipulation to his location and keep casting.
    5.) Move and swiftcast.
    6.) Worst case scenario move and scathe.

    Moving doesn't affect your DPS that badly if you only need to reposition yourself as long as it's done before you next cast doesn't drop your astral buff. Yet keep in mind a dead caster is bad dps.

    Whining wont help you become a better black mage.
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  4. #54
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    Khovel Ryuho
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    from what i've read, i feel i have a good suggestion for how this could be resolved. Make it an ability similar to Cleric Stance for a WHM. When active, it prevents Astral Ice from regen mana, and instead boosts it's output comparable to Astral Fire. So Ice would have the same potentcy and abilities as fire would under this stance, but all casting spells incur a 10-15% damage debuff. Once the stance is removed or deactivated, all astrals reset as to prevent instant mp regen.
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  5. #55
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    Nayto's Avatar
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    Blake Ater
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    Excalibur
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    Marauder Lv 65
    Quote Originally Posted by Phe View Post
    This.

    The community posted several suggestions for compromises back then, but they just ignored them.

    You could slow down mages while casting, you could reduce the spell-damage while moving.
    etc. etc.

    still think that was one of the lamest nerfs Yoshi came up with.
    WHM can still heal itself completely while splashing water at you and running away. I say add longer casting time on top of your 'stand still' nerf.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    How to move as a BLM

    1.) When cast bar is at its last .2 seconds you can strafe a small margin of distance or just jump in said direction.
    2.) When you get Thundercloud and Firestarter procs use them as you move.
    3.) When you Blizzard III when very low on Mana usually at less than 300 mana you have time to move.
    4.) If the enemy has a long cast timer for his ability. As you are finishing your casts click someone from your group and Aetherial Manipulation to his location and keep casting.
    5.) Move and swiftcast.
    6.) Worst case scenario move and scathe.

    Moving doesn't affect your DPS that badly if you only need to reposition yourself as long as it's done before you next cast doesn't drop your astral buff. Yet keep in mind a dead caster is bad dps.

    Whining wont help you become a better black mage.
    Look at this man. Should learn from his example.
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    Last edited by Nayto; 04-19-2014 at 06:05 AM.

  6. #56
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    HitoYuudai's Avatar
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    Hito Yuudai
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Do I want some changes for BLM?
    - Yes

    Do I want to be able to move while casting?
    - Hell no, it would just feel totally wrong imo as a BLM to run around while spamming the casts. As some already said: you can do alot when you're positioning yourself correctly. Though it's just a pain sometimes in the new coils :P
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