Leviathan Ex Weapons screw over Paladins & White Mages

[MrEzekial]

Yeah, the mirror drop rate is junk, and we all expect them to become more common once people have wasted their time upgrading to Animus, but with 2.25 the path to 110 relic weapons should be coming out soon.

[SarcasmMisser]

Who said the relic weapons will be i110? I still haven't seen a confirmation on the ilevel.

[Rufalus]

Who said the relic weapons will be i110? I still haven't seen a confirmation on the ilevel.

I guess it's assumed that 110 will be the next step after 100. Probably a safe bet.

[SarcasmMisser]

People said the exact same thing pre-2.2. I wouldn't bet a cent on it.

[Estellios]

Who said the relic weapons will be i110? I still haven't seen a confirmation on the ilevel.

We don't know about the exact iLevel but there's still several books that are already stated in-game and by the devs to not be available yet and those will likely boost the iL further.

[Nekodar]

Since we're supposed to see further parts of the questline in both 2.25 and 2.3, and High Allagan weapons will stay the best (iLevel wise) until 2.4, I doubt 2.25 will bring the relic higher than i105 with i110 in 2.3.

[Skyl1n3]

So.... anyone who's either no-lifed Levi EX or either got extremely lucky and got the Mirror drop and upgraded their respective shields already... gets a FREE Mirror?!

Sorry, but what BS is that?! Yes you have to use 2 Mirrors but that's because you have 2 DIFFERENT PIECES OF HAND-HELD GEAR in 2 DIFFERENT SLOTS!

Also the argument "everyone else can walk away with an ilvl 100 weapon after just one." doesn't stand, PLD's and WHM's can ALSO walk away with their ilvl100 Main hand Weapons using just 1 Mirror! But you also have a shield which is ANOTHER piece of equipment, jeez some people just want everything handed out on a silver platter.

BTW the upgrade version of the weapon has grow effect (blue color) look a lot cooler than animus to me.

You sure about that?

[Kaze3434]

complain

you miss the point of this. the stats of the main are split with the shield. other classes get the full i100 stats with one mirror while pld and whm have to use two mirrors to get the same affect.

[Yukiko]

At first when I read that, I thought that mirror drop rate would be look in to and increase, but it doesn't seems to be, which is quite disappointing. Me and my static have farm Levi quite a lot either together or separately, but only 1 of us have seen the mirror, the rest of us have never seen it drop. Not too mention that you have to roll against 7 other players if you are not in a static group. PF group have resorted to limiting roll for mirror to 2 person, but this also cause players not joining a group if the slot for mirror is full, simply because there is no reason to join unless they can roll for the mirror. Those that have been farming a lot will by now have the weapons they want or even some weapons that they don't, so mirror is the only reason to keep farming Levi.

Looking at how it is I would probably get my Animus done before I even see a mirror, let alone get one.

One of the biggest problems we have since 1.x is that SE always thinks low droprate and rolling against 7 others is the same!
If you have low droprate, please give everyone a loot, i mean: it is already hard enough to win that damn fight (not everytime you have a static ready)
If you have to roll against 7 others, please increase droprate or give one 100% drop. Do you remember the time in 1.x where we gotten after wins just some dark matter?

Please SE, rethink your drop diplomacy...

[Zaels]

Sorry, but what BS is that?! Yes you have to use 2 Mirrors but that's because you have 2 DIFFERENT PIECES OF HAND-HELD GEAR in 2 DIFFERENT SLOTS!

Also the argument "everyone else can walk away with an ilvl 100 weapon after just one." doesn't stand, PLD's and WHM's can ALSO walk away with their ilvl100 Main hand Weapons using just 1 Mirror! But you also have a shield which is ANOTHER piece of equipment, jeez some people just want everything handed out on a silver platter

I hope you realize that itemlevel for classes using two-handed weapons takes their main hand's item level into the equation twice, and that the total stats of a 1h + shield is about the same total stats as a 2h.

Example 1: Calculating a WAR's item level adds up the item level of each piece of gear once, and the weapon twice. The sum is divided by 13 and rounded down and displayed as your item level. Calculating a PLD's item level adds up the item level of each piece of gear once, including the sword and the shield. The sum is divided by 13 and rounded down and displayed as your item level.

This means a 2h weapon has more weight towards item level compared to a 1h weapon. The second example shows that is also has more weight towards stats compared to a 1h weapon without the shield.

Example 2: PLD's Tidal Wave Sword has 30 Vit/26 Str. Tidal Wave Shield has 12 Vit/11 Str. Meanwhile Tidal Wave Axe for WAR has 42 Vit/37 Str. It currently takes two mirrors for the PLD to get the same stats as a WAR that spent one mirror, regardless of item slots.


Nobody's asking for FREE things. They're asking for fairness and it is a reasonable request.