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  1. #141
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    Kaela's Avatar
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    Kay'la Yukinekove
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    I had a healer in Satasha that said that he couldn't get one gate at the final boss because he was healing the tank. It annoyed the hell outta me. Healers who can't take a few seconds to interact with something is going to have problems in later dungeons. <.<
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  2. #142
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    Marael's Avatar
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    Marael Meowington
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    Coeurl
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    Goldsmith Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    fact is, you shouldn't have to kite, because you shouldn't be tanking anything. If you're being attacked by a mob, you're doing your dps job wrong (or your tank died, but that's an other problem)
    Fact is, not every tank out there is as good at their job as you are. It's not ALWAYS the fault of the DPS. Tanks do make mistakes too. You're not immune from stupidity or incompetence because you happen to be a tank.
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  3. #143
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    Alipoprocks's Avatar
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    Sam Witch
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    </3 drg spamming aoe in town.
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  4. #144
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    Marael's Avatar
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    Marael Meowington
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    Coeurl
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    Goldsmith Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Teeko View Post
    but if the tank that is tanking the fate boss dies while you spam stone and didn't heal them, in my eyes you absolutely failed to do the job that your role is designed to do.
    I have a few issues with that statement.

    1.) If a tank thinks he can tank a fate boss solo, expecting people to heal him out of the kindness of their hearts, he fails at reality.
    2.) If a tank is in a party with a healer, and dies, then gets mad at other healers outside his party for not healing him to, he also fails at reality.
    3.) If a tank is tanking a fate boss solo, and does not have a healer chocobo by his side, he fails at reality yet again.
    4.) If a tank dies to a fate boss with a healer chocobo in healer stance by his side, he fails at his job, and should choose a new one ASAP. If you can't stay alive with a healer chocobo on a tank job, just stop. Do everyone else a favor, and find something else.

    Why would a tank run up to a fate boss, with no healing or support whatsoever, and expect random strangers to heal him? That is an epic failure in common sense right there, son. If you're solo, use a healer chocobo. Problem solved. If you don't want to solo, invite a healer. Problem solved. You Leroy Jenkins your way into a fight with no healing on your side whatsoever, and you deserve everything you get as a result. I've tanked fate boss after fate boss as a BRD with my trusty healer chocobo. I've soloed many a fate boss with my trusty healer chocobo. It's plain blind stupidity to rely on the kindness of strangers rather than doing what you can to help yourself. That applies to all aspects of life, not just video games. The only one you have to blame for a death at a fate is yourself, because either you weren't smart enough to use a healer chocobo, or too antisocial to invite a healer or join a party. Fortune smiles upon those who help themselves, rather than those who complain about others not doing their jobs when he has given them no reason to care, or even notice, that he even exists. The sad fact of the matter is that most people are not going to take notice of you or even care that you exist. Some might, but a lot of others won't. They have their own things to do, and don't usually care so much about you. Most of them probably have their healer chocobos out and expect you to have one too, so they see no need to bother healing you, because you should have been smart enough to bring one of your own in the first place. Many people are so focused on what they're doing, or not even paying attention to what they're doing because they're doing the 17,000th fate for the atma and watching TV, forum hopping, or reading while spamming one button. It's pretty unrealistic to expect them to pay attention to you, a random stranger for whom they have no care, while you run in unprepared and get yourself killed. And just FYI, some players still have trouble with all the characters at a fate loading up. Don't blame them if they can't see or target you due to crappy internet, PS3, or low end PC loading issues. You could be standing right next to them, and they would never see you. You could ask for cures all you want, and they could never target you to heal you. If you're expecting everyone to have a system capable of playing the game flawlessly, and an internet connection that is up to par with it, you're highly deluded. I get that it's a pet peeve of yours, but to me, it's all on you to provide your own healing in a fate where it's usually always every man for himself. It's been happening like that since the game's release. And it's not going to change because you haven't caught on yet, no matter how much you may complain about it. Get yourself a healer chocobo. It makes you virtually immortal so long as you can dodge the occasional AoE.
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    Last edited by Marael; 04-18-2014 at 04:49 AM.

  5. #145
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    L-D-Omlette's Avatar
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    Leona Thane
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    Behemoth
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nukocafe View Post
    lol when I tell someone to stop using it in my FC and they tried to argue with me that it was useful, I made sure to never party with them again.
    If you know your distances right fluid aura will put a stray mob back into the pack if you happen to steal hate. I have only needed to do this in lower level dungeons, but it can be useful. (not often though)

    As for my annoyances:
    WHMs that get po-ed that I misjudged a single AOE and I ate some damage. If I do it repeatedly, yeah, I'm the idiot, but once every so often and I can manage it w/ second wind? Calm down...
    Can I jump on the bandwagon of hating mob kiters? I think I'll just wait here until you're done, thanks.
    Everyone who tells me to LB Bray HM boss after second set of bombs. I don't need to be told every single run.... /sigh
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  6. #146
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    PandaPause's Avatar
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    Tonbo Skywarp
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by FritoBandito View Post
    DoH who do their crafting RIGHT ON TOP of the retainer summoning bell.
    THIS ^ a thousand times over.

    Same goes for that random WHM spamming Holy next to the summoning bell
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  7. #147
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    This is entirely subjective. Have to see why is the healer low on MP - over heal or people dying?

    If it is healer's poor MP management or people taking unnecessary dmg and dying then it's no fault of the BRD for having low MP if he has spent his MP on Foe Requiem as required/needed.
    I have seen more situations where I have to SCREAM at the BRD to do ballad because I am low on MP trying to prevent a wipe. Or worse had to burn my MP to raise another WHM who now has jack diddly for MP and the BRD is lost in his own world all PEW PEW with full MP.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alipoprocks View Post
    </3 drg spamming aoe in town.
    This. More times than I can stress. Thank GOD there is a SFX volume adjustment for non party members. Its been set to ZERO since like September.
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    Last edited by necrosis; 04-18-2014 at 04:42 AM.

  8. #148
    Player Kusanagi7's Avatar
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    Character
    Primal Ishtar
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    tanks that don't use flash or taunt.
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  9. #149
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    HoneyBiscuit's Avatar
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    Character
    Reohart Redstarr
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    1. Monks that never use mantra. Like ever.
    2a. That one CNJ who didn't cast a single cure in Sastasha who said, "Don't tell me how to play my class." When the ACN, forced into healing, told him to drop CS, stop using stone, and heal.
    2b. That same guy later trying to tell me how to play my class.
    3. A CNJ who uses nothing but Medica to try and heal a dungeon. Seriously.
    4. People who need to be told not to stand in fire.
    5. Dragoons.
    6. People running off before protect, and later telling me they don't have protect on. Oh you dont? Strange, I cast it. . .
    7. Tanks who really can't handle a speed run, trying to speed run.
    8. The guy who designed "Apoctastasis."
    9. When the other ranged dps/healers stand right on top of me when there's unavoidable aoes like Friction.
    10. Dragoons.
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  10. #150
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    Kuwagami's Avatar
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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 78
    Quote Originally Posted by Marael View Post
    Fact is, not every tank out there is as good at their job as you are. It's not ALWAYS the fault of the DPS. Tanks do make mistakes too. You're not immune from stupidity or incompetence because you happen to be a tank.
    I'm not saying that tanks are immune to stupidity. But a simple way not to pull hate off is to stop dps. Totally. Either tank will die or he will take lead in hate. or teach him. idk.
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