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    OmegaSinX's Avatar
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    King Drako
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    Marauder Lv 76

    Heavy Wolfram Helm (HQ) BiS ?

    Looking over the i110 Head gear and noticed none of them had Parry on them.

    Noct Circlet Offers Crit and DET

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/b49ec3afa76/

    While High Allagan offers Acc and SS .

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/315ed7ec522/

    Grant it The Heavy Wolfram Helm is only i90 but it has alot to offer.

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/04537ca284d/

    Wolfram Helm comes Capped with Crit (21) so off the bat its crit is higher than Noct Criclet. And with Materia you can Meld ACC> DET>SS to include the Parry you wouldnt have othere wise.

    I for one will put 6 more Parry on it to reach the cap and use the rest of the slots for DET. And reach the ACC Cap via othere means

    You'd lose 8vit (120 hp if im not mistaken) and 3 defense for the option to gain 21 Parry/21 ACC/ 21 CRIT/ 21 SS/ 15 DET. IMO the trade off is worth it.

    Thoughts?
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    Delenia Forcentis
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    I don't think you can consider something BiS by losing a primary stat (VIT).

    BiS has always been first and foremost:
    1. Capping Accuracy for the highest level content that requires that Accuracy cap (in this patch, it will probably be The Second Coil of Bahamut - Turn 4)
    2. Maxing out primary stat
    3. Maxing out a single secondary stat.

    In that order.

    Ultimately, it's not something set in stone, and I'm willing to wager that High Allagan Circlet of Fending will probably be the 2.2 BiS helm. But if you are willing to trade off 4 ACC and 8 VIT for all the other stats, by all means go for it.
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    You're losing defense, vitality, and strength.

    Secondaries aren't worth it.
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    Pacifica Auras
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    Unless a single piece of a lower ilvl offered you an additional 50% chance to Crit, I would never wear it. Primary stats are FAR more important than any grouping of Secondaries.

    Ilvl > is more important than anything in this game.
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    Kimura Blaze
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    Blacksmith Lv 50
    i was just reading through someone who did a lot of testing on stats, and it varies for each class and stat, but it was something like one of your primary stats can be traded off for like 5 of your best secondary, then like 7 or 10 of the next best secondary stat. trading 8 of your primary stat (VIT), no way! that can't be BIS. honestly, as a tank, I've survived plenty of huge hits while healers were getting destroyed simultaneously, where that 50-250 hp saved my life. you should never get that low, but stuff happens. thing is, when you're a tank, especially when solo healing end game raids, and you die, its a 99% guaranteed wipe. vitality is too important, i wouldn't trade that much off for some extra determination, or even parry for that matter. it would have to be a ton of parry in that case.
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    Casper Theghost
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    It is questionnable. It is certainly an amazing piece of gear, way better than the i100 option in my opinion. However, as others have said, you are talking about losing a lot of main stats. Now the 3 armor does count for nothing, really. So that leaves you with losing 6 str and 8 vit for gaining 21 parry., which should be about 1.6% parry rate or so. I don't think i would make that trade, but it is close in my book, which spokes volume about how good the wolfram is. If anything, i will look to buy this, because you should upgrade the noct head last, given how good the wolfram is, so that should last you for a while.

    Of course if you drop the head in coil, then it is a different matter. I can see the head being usefull with the crapton of acc on it, allowing you more leeway elsewhere. But as always, the question remains: how many week until you get it ?
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    Blanitar Abarhyrsyn
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    I agree with the others in this thread. The vertical progression design of this game has made it so that in 90% of cases ilvl trumps all. This is very unfortunate but it's the current design of the game.

    Materia melding the ilvl90 Helm may push it beyond the ilvl100 gear but you lose too much Vit for it to be better than the ilvl110. I believe the ilvl90 helm has 20 Vit while the ilvl110 has 28. Even if your going on the 1:5 rule that someone proposed earlier, you would need an increase of about 40 in a secondary stat to even consider it.
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    Teresa Faintsmile
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabian View Post
    I agree with the others in this thread. The vertical progression design of this game has made it so that in 90% of cases ilvl trumps all. This is very unfortunate but it's the current design of the game.

    Materia melding the ilvl90 Helm may push it beyond the ilvl100 gear but you lose too much Vit for it to be better than the ilvl110. I believe the ilvl90 helm has 20 Vit while the ilvl110 has 28. Even if your going on the 1:5 rule that someone proposed earlier, you would need an increase of about 40 in a secondary stat to even consider it.
    penta melded i90 with Materia IVs at best put it at 98ish if that. Parry is crap stats anyway since 70% of the time you just wasted a bunch of points, and by screwing yourself out of STR, you making parry even less useful. DET is the way to go.

    And to OP, before u start thinking about BiS, maybe you should actually do the content, seeing as you havent done any EX or T5.
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    Last edited by NightReach; 04-18-2014 at 01:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightReach View Post
    And to OP, before u start thinking about BiS, maybe you should actually do the content, seeing as you havent done any EX or T5.
    Why so angry?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabian View Post
    Why so angry?

    I'm not sure how that reads as angry, its just a suggestion. Theorycraft is fun and all, but you should at least do the content that those "BiS" list is designed for thats all. Though seeing how t6-9 has very little gear check, BiS is really just a fad.
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