Levi X and MNK

[Ehayte]

I've been farming Levi X on MNK a lot lately. I usually end up like 4th on the enmity list on the tail, and I more than pull my weight on adds. That's fine, I could probably do a little better, but GL3 management is next to impossible, and unless I'm mistaken DRGs and BRDs have a much easier time turning "on" their dps mechanics.

I feel like I am killin' it on spumes, I usually do a TwSn buffed Demo and ToD on the spume I am near to start with, shoulder tackle over across the platform, use DK+TrSk+Demo+ToD on the next, run to the adjacent spume without wasting any time on my GCD, do DK+TwSn+Demo+ToD on that one, then I'm back to the first, DK+TrSk+Demo>high DPS rot with BFB+IR and using my off-GCDs until I decimate that one, reapplying demo on Spume #2 when I know its about to go. When my primary target is down, I reapply Demo+Fracture (as it won't last the duration of ToD) then pop over to the other set of Spumes if they are still up and either get 2 sets of Demo/ToD ticking, or apply what I can (sometimes its ToD+Frac on each one if I am coming over with bad rotation timing in terms of being able to apply a Demo) to the remaining 2 spumes.

Two questions for good MNKs who have farmed this:

- Am I right in assuming that its going to be hard for me to top the chart as a MNK (on levi, specifically) in this fight assuming my party members are comparably geared and skilled due to the nature of movement, GL stacks, etc? Or am I sucking and need to improve my Cool Down management on that fight?

- Am I right to spread my DoTs across accessible Spumes, or should I single target burn the crap out of one single spume and then move onto the next, until I know I won't be in contact with them (i.e. obviously its best to apply ToD/Demo to every spume that's still up during spinning dives, then touch what I can while dodging)?

Sorry for the long winded-ness, but it really pissed me off when a BRD said he parsed "much higher" than me yesterday : (

[ChaozK]

In our farm group, it looks like BRD/DRG>MNK>BLM.
BRD and DRG are kinda close but usually the bard tends to parse slightly higher on average as long as there is no singing involved. Our MNKs do fairly well and are not that far off either. BLMs are somewhat low to the point that we have stopped running it with more than 1 BLM at a time.

We have no SMNs in our group but i feel they might be top dps in this fight.

[Riotpersona]

While I cannot offer any advice on MNK, I would say not to worry about it too much. BRDs and SMNs are pretty much downright unfair on this fight.

[JetBrooks]

Yeah, I have a fun time keeping up with bards as DRG, SMNs just kill it though.

[Donjo]

I'm personally not sure about the "dot up all of the spumes method". It's certainly possible to go and do that without losing Greased Lightning, but every moment you spend not attacking a spume is a moment you're doing less damage, regardless of dots you already have up. The arena is large enough that you'll be doing a lot of running.

A very good thing to do to keep your DPS up in the fight though is to make sure all three of your dots are refreshed right before a dive phase. All dots keep ticking and doing damage even while he is untargetable.

[PArcher]

As bad as it is to say...I personally cringe every time I run Levi EX with a MNK (normally, I heal the fight). They're just so gimped in the fight...aren't enough good MNK that can do the fight well.

[Remn]

the only way that i'm able to keep GL 3 is to push levi thru phase (during the first half of the fight, meaning from the start to first yellow spume. He only jump/drive once, the initial one) this allow my party to skip 2 drive and keep my GL3.
this is really difficult to do tho as it require every DPS to puch the boss. for the spume DPS i like to focus one by one. The last thing i want is to have more than 2 spume goes off at the same time.

[Ehayte]

I'm personally not sure about the "dot up all of the spumes method". It's certainly possible to go and do that without losing Greased Lightning, but every moment you spend not attacking a spume is a moment you're doing less damage, regardless of dots you already have up. The arena is large enough that you'll be doing a lot of running.

A very good thing to do to keep your DPS up in the fight though is to make sure all three of your dots are refreshed right before a dive phase. All dots keep ticking and doing damage even while he is untargetable.

I never will have any point in time where i am doing nothing from a GCD stand point, the time it takes to run between 2 spumes near to each other is less than a fully stacked GL3 GCD, as long as you are moving as you are applying the previous skill. For the far ones, there is time to use 2 Shoulder tackles in each spume phase, which I use to get between those distances. So from that standpoint, there is no dps wasted.

And Yes i reapply all 3 of my dots as Levi does Tidal Roar or whatever that group-wide AE is so that they are all ticking during dives.

As bad as it is to say...I personally cringe every time I run Levi EX with a MNK (normally, I heal the fight). They're just so gimped in the fight...aren't enough good MNK that can do the fight well.

That's what I am fearing. I am definitely holding my own against other DPS classes, but I feel like maybe I should just bring a different class in to DPS when I can.

P.S. Why are people saying BLMs are bad on this fight? I have an i90 BLM I do turn5 with and I can't see how this would be tougher than Titan HM to DPS on?

[Remn]

BLM is not bad it just SMN is OP on single target xP + Multi DoT on spume

[Kitfox]

I keep up with other DPS just fine on MNK and often top the chart.