Not sure how they would fit but....aliens...

[Akoree]

they are swords, not ships.

The Ragnarok is one of the swords that held dalamud together, and the various locations in side the great labyrinth (like the central drive core) kept it powered so it could retain bahamut's fury.

Fairly sure that swords with engines can be considered ships.

[C-croft]

FFIX, weren't they aliens as well? Kuja and Zidane?

[myahele]

Hmm, what if Crystal Tower is where allagans are resting/ in stasis? That or its some type of teleportation device that transports people to the moon?

The Garleans have those dreadnoughts and we can assume that allagans had more advanced methods.

Whats also interesting is the Garleans converts aether into ceruleum to feul their magitek. Could they have started an astral era?

[saber_alter]

Fairly sure that swords with engines can be considered ships.

not if they are stuck in a planet that doesn't move.

and said swords have no form of propulsion. An engine generates power, the things attached to it cause the acceleration.

[Akoree]

not if they are stuck in a planet that doesn't move.

and said swords have no form of propulsion. An engine generates power, the things attached to it cause the acceleration.

To close this side of the discussion, the Ragnarok is a spaceship as stated in the duty finder description:

At the depth of 1233 yalms, your party comes upon the fragment of Dalamud the Garleans had sought. Its true identity is the Ragnarok, a collossal starship which fell away from the less moon moments before Bhamut burst free of his prison...

[Altijacek]

7 also has Jenova as an alien, as well as 4 and 5 as mentioned, and 8 has Occult Fan and PuPu, 9 has Kuja and etc, 11 not too sure never really got far into it but plan to someday. 13 had...weird stuff. Final Fantasy Legend had alien like stuff too.

[JeniLinsky]

That or its some type of teleportation device that transports people to the moon?

Hmm. I figured it was a mass driver or the bottom of a beanstalk, myself.

[A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider]

[JeniLinsky]

as funny as it may sound by aliens in a fantasy environment seem way out of place...

You know, there's another way to look at all this... it's all Science-Fiction.

Hear (read) me out, here: The ancient Allag had technologies which we, as modern Earth humans, don't have. It's not such a stretch to think that they might have mastered nanotechnology, including Von Neumann machines. Now, here's the interesting thing about that possibility... we know that the basis of magic is something called "Aether." And that Aether has a physical presence, because there's an Aether pump under the lighthouse at Pharos thingie. Not to mention the fact that material are said to be crystalized aether, infused with the experience of the base item's user through association over time.


If I'm right, Aether is actually nanotech, and "magic" is simply the process of learning to show the foglets what you want them to do. When one casts a spell in game, one can see the foglets accumulating, then flying out to the target, where they do whatever it is you've asked them to do... bring the fire / ice, do cellular repair on wounded flesh, whatever.

So we have magic today, because the Allag had science then.

[gornotck]

Science is the answer to everything.

Ancient Allag brought the world to its knees. Bahamut is bound by keeping his physical and aetheric forms separated. Odin is cursed to walk the world because he simply cannot die. The big yellow dude at the end of Labyrinth was science beyond science. The Gigas tribes were a subjugated race beneath the Allagan Empire, and they are obsessed with Allag's technology under the belief that it'll MAKE them Allagan. All the beasts of Eorzea are but the freed experiments of Allag, gone feral over the centuries. All following civilizations are but children playing in their parents' clothes.