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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysteltain View Post
    I'm glad to see that they finally resolved what those lasers were doing--I always suspected that that was their purpose. Still, I guess this also tells us the entire purpose of the Binding Coil, though the name seems a little inappropriate now.
    Still binding, but the Allagans wouldn't want their battery to die. So there are Primal life support devices therein.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider View Post
    Depends on how you see the word "binding." If you look at it as the "story" is looking at it, the term is meant to be a prison. But from what's happening, the term actually means to put together.
    Quote Originally Posted by RolandDebreton View Post
    Still binding, but the Allagans wouldn't want their battery to die. So there are Primal life support devices therein.
    Guess I spoke to soon then, heh. Didn't think of the second definition for binding, nor that any civilization with a super-weapon wouldn't really want it to be gone forever.
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    Then again the best kind of prison is one the keeps the prisoner alive no matter what they try *eyes a Pandorica*
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    Okay then. that's what I'll do. I'll tell you a story. Can you hear them? All these people who lived in terror of you and your judgement. All these people who's ancestors devoted themselves to you, sacrificed themselves to you. Can you hear them singing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctaruRavenbe View Post
    Then again the best kind of prison is one the keeps the prisoner alive no matter what they try *eyes a Pandorica*
    Thing is Bahamut is enslaved by the Allagans as a power core to direct or generate energy to the crystal tower as seen in the quest text for opening the 2nd coil. With crystal Tower suddenly activating to unknown purpose, it is imperative that the Allagans best interest is to heal bahamut to quicken the catalyst process
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    Or it could be the tower's activation is to repair Bahamut. then once the primal is back to healed... resume its siphoning of the primal for whatever death defying Emperor Xandes had set up.
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    Okay then. that's what I'll do. I'll tell you a story. Can you hear them? All these people who lived in terror of you and your judgement. All these people who's ancestors devoted themselves to you, sacrificed themselves to you. Can you hear them singing?

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    i dont understand what the debate is about, in this very video posted @1:48, Darnus says himself and i quote, "No... A moment... My thoughts are clouded and THIS BODY IS NOT MY OWN." so clearly this is not darnus's body, an just some sort of manifestation that bahamut is letting him have, which is also clearly stated in the video by Allisea, when telling him that his primal is disenclined to sustain his existance. So as someone posted earlier, you fools need to learn to read.

    p.s. and native garleans possess a third eye so they are infact not midlander or highlander as neither race possesses a third eye, so yes they are just garlean, this doesnt have to be explained anywhere officially online because its already explained in game when cid explains that native garleans have a third eye
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    Let's put it this way.

    We now know the point of Dalamud was to channel the energy of the sun into the Crystal Tower by using Bahamut. Mr Big Bad Primal would soak up the energy (aether - all energy is aether, aether is energy and E=mc2, thus aether is convertable to matter) radiating through space and spit it down into the Crystal Tower like a collector dish 24/7.

    Problem and Consequence: The Alagan components have been displaced. The intelligent Automated Defence Systems of the Internment Hulk have continued to perform their intended task by seeking out and containing their target while keeping it on life support with artificial worship* and free from external harm. Meanwhile, Bahamut no longer feeds on solar energy, so is left to nom on Hydaelyn's aether. Oh bugger. With no clear path to the Crystal Tower collection dish, Bahamut will keep that aether thank you very much. And so the clock is ticking... what is another 10 years of regeneration to an entity that has waited for millennia?
    This is likely the conclusion that Alisae and Urianger have come to as they seek to disable the internment hulks.

    *This is its own can of worms. Odin seems to keep coming back despite a lack of devotees summoning him forth. Chances are Bahamut similarly doesn't abide by those rules either, so the assumptions our friends make may be cataclysmically flawed.
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    What interesting from these cut scenes are that Ferne mistype the name on purpose (yes, I bet you do Ferne), where when he type Nael Deus Darnus in Nael van Darnus dialogue, because both dialogues share the same style of speech, while from To Kill a Raven cut scenes back in 1.0, Nael Deus Darnus has this italic style of speech.

    unless of course the scene from 1.0 is also an on purpose typo

    to sum it up
    To Kill a Raven Phase 1: fighting Nael van Darnus, who speaking in normal non italize speech (though in archaic language)
    To Kill a Raven Phase 2: beaten, van Darnus call fort the power of of Dalamud, and transform in Deus Darnus, who now italize his speech (even his in game dialogue)
    Aftermath: beaten for the second time, Nael (not sure which one since no dialogue spoken) vanish into aether, leaving no body behind which making me wonder that Nael already die after phase one


    now, my only question is, does Nael italize his/her/w/e speech in t9?

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    Well, the name Nael Deus Darnus does have some significance to it. In Garlemald, one's middle "name" is actually a sign of their status. Zos is an emporer, Van is a Legatus, Sas is a senior officer and Nan is (probably) an expert engineer.

    So to replace Van with Deus is to give Nael a new status in his concepts of culture.
    And if we're going on the Latin meaning of Deus (rather than the French, though the translation to #2 is amusing), it means a god-like being.

    Nael, Legatus of House Darnus
    has become
    Nael, Demigod of House Darnus
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    yea, I get that
    its just that its quite funny to see the name change from one sentence to another, whereas the sentence style itself not change
    its look like Nael subconscious in the 2nd sentence (where s/he speak him/herself as the legatus of the VII) finally realize that s/he's Nael

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