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    Chances are i suck at WAR and excel at GLD.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChestyBear View Post
    [*] If you have a lvl 34 CNJ. Get Stone Skin to cast on your MT, then rotate in one or two Riot Blade combos to cover the MP cost.[/LIST]
    Excellent tips, but you wanna fix that level
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoekes View Post
    Chances are i suck at WAR and excel at GLD.


    Excellent tips, but you wanna fix that level
    Thanks :P I've just fixed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoekes View Post
    Chances are i suck at WAR and excel at GLD.


    Excellent tips, but you wanna fix that level
    IIRC SS costs 399 mp and at level 50 Riot blade recovers 133 (so if the numbers are right it should take 3 RBs to recoup MP).

    Does ROH debuff stack from 2 PLDs? if it does, then consider this:

    RoH debuff is up. --> stone skin (-2.5) --> fast blade (-2.5) --> riot blade (-2.5) [+133MP] --> fast blade (-2.5) --> riot blade (-2.5) [+133MP] --> fast blade (-2.5) --> savage blade (-2.5) --> Rage of Halone.

    With this you will only net lose 133mp per Debuff Cycle. Not that it really means anything, but just felt like pointing that out. Also, if RoH doesn't stack, then meh /sadface
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan View Post
    IIRC SS costs 399 mp and at level 50 Riot blade recovers 133 (so if the numbers are right it should take 3 RBs to recoup MP).
    Don't forget that you will have to do other things, too. Plus, by the time you get 2 Riot Blades and 1 Rage of Halone in (to reapply the debuff) , the MP would regen itself back to full.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan View Post
    Don't forget:

    When you creep up on the aggro, you should do Fast Blade --> Riot Blade.

    Sword Oath + RoH works. I don't advise doing it at the start of the fight. start off with CoS and Spirits Within. Then a FB +RB. Then RoH Combo, casting stoneskin do drop off the aug table a bit.
    If you read the rest of my post besides that one line, you'd see that you are repeating information.

    - Don't use RB if you have full mana, cast a stoneskin or two so the regen isn't wasted (unless you MUST put DPS on the mob without taking aggro)
    - Don't use CoS>SW>FB>RB | Use FB > CoS > SW > RB if you are going to do that, you are wasting ticks on your GCD by using 2 OCDs in a row
    - Also, I'd recommend STARTING with Stone Skin on MT, then RoH, then SS, then RB, etc. That way MT has 2 or 3 GCDs on you and should have no problem holding hate over you first RoH to put the debuff on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan View Post
    IIRC SS costs 399 mp and at level 50 Riot blade recovers 133 (so if the numbers are right it should take 3 RBs to recoup MP).

    Does ROH debuff stack from 2 PLDs? if it does, then consider this:

    RoH debuff is up. --> stone skin (-2.5) --> fast blade (-2.5) --> riot blade (-2.5) [+133MP] --> fast blade (-2.5) --> riot blade (-2.5) [+133MP] --> fast blade (-2.5) --> savage blade (-2.5) --> Rage of Halone.

    With this you will only net lose 133mp per Debuff Cycle. Not that it really means anything, but just felt like pointing that out. Also, if RoH doesn't stack, then meh /sadface
    RoH doesn't stack, that would be crazy. Also I think Stone Skin is in the high 200s for a level 50? It also has a cast time longer than a single GCD tick, in addition, blindly casting and locking a rotation doesn't work well on PLD - MNK BLM and SMN have a really easy static rot that will maximize dps, but a PLD is more like a priority list (similar to BRD) to maximize their effectiveness, which includes watching healer hp, dps hp, MT hp, own hp, enmity, own mp, watching for burn phases, preparing for tank swaps, preparing to pick up adds.
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