RNG is ruining this game (ATMA QQ post)

[Hayward]

Anyone have a Tryhardese -> English translation for Alexander's post?

There is no reasonable argument for luck playing so large a part for such a minor part of this questline. Using gated content is nowhere near a viable excuse for justifying Skinner Box approaches like this.

[Raxion]

I just re-subbed to the game after a few-month break. Just today I found out about atma farming to upgrade your relic weapons. It didn't seem so bad at first, but after farming for hours and getting nothing, I'm going to go ahead and say that it's bullsh*t.

There's no reason I should have to run level 5 FATEs all day for an extremely minor chance at an item that I need 12 of, just to upgrade my weapon. Who thought this was a good idea? I'm not even complaining about it due to lack of time. I can play all day every day. I'm complaining about it because it's just time-wasting bullsh*t.

[Starlord]

I'm complaining about it because it's just time-wasting bullsh*t.

To be quite honest we need that in this game, in fact there not enough of it. I may not like the approach of it all, but at least it's giving me something to do, and the best part is, I don't see the whole server having these zodiacs. In the end they will up the drop rate I'm sure.

[Escadora]

Nothing is wrong with the ATMA quest. Another group of people wanting something handed to them. WAH - WAH. DON'T WANT TO GRIND FOR MY GEAR. MAKE IT EASY FOR EVERYONE TO GET. I still don't see how it's unfair, no matter how I look at it.

[Hayward]

Nothing is wrong with the ATMA quest. Another group of people wanting something handed to them. WAH - WAH. DON'T WANT TO GRIND FOR MY GEAR. MAKE IT EASY FOR EVERYONE TO GET. I still don't see how it's unfair, no matter how I look at it.

Take off the Tryhard glasses and your vision should be clearer. Also, no one in these threads have come anywhere near wanting things "handed to them" (that meme gives you away instantly as an "I've got mine" poster).

[RygaenYuui]

Only, this isn't an old-school Korean MMO.

And honestly, nobody is complaining about the time sink. People are complaining about the randomness of the whole thing. You can get your Atma in less than 24 hours while someone else doesn't get it until after 5 months.
I'm fairly certain that if this were a proper time-sink, and SE said "you'll be spending the next 2 months on this", AND you'd see some bloody progression, nobody would be complaining on the forums in the first place!

And this is uncommon in JRPGs when? And definitely not uncommon in MMOs. It should be a given. Really.

You've really gotta hand it to the Devs though; I've never played a game where any kind of drop rate even for quest items was 100% after killing the specified target.

It's called probability. But if you keep at it you will eventually get yours. Maybe.

[Raxion]

Nothing is wrong with the ATMA quest. Another group of people wanting something handed to them. WAH - WAH. DON'T WANT TO GRIND FOR MY GEAR. MAKE IT EASY FOR EVERYONE TO GET. I still don't see how it's unfair, no matter how I look at it.

I didn't say it was unfair. I said it was an overly-obnoxious time sink.

FATE grinding is by far the most undesirable thing I can imagine wasting my time doing in this game. I'd rather fight Ifrit Ex 100 times than farm FATEs for a week.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

If you read a lot of the posts in other threads, people would prefer "bars" or some notification of progress, it's the randomness/rng of the whole thing that is frustrating. I would quite happily farm 1000 mobs per zone, at least I can see that bar move, and know I'm getting somewhere whilst I'm doing it.

Thats the forum people, for each of you crying, there are 30 people in each map doing FATES. And if there were bars, the same forum people would be speak shit about it anyway. The ATMA system is perfect as it is now. Besides, and for lolz of all of you, they are probably going to rise their drop by a notorious margin in coming updates, rendering all your suffering and tears even more worthless cause people don`t know how to mmorpg.

As i said, the only problem with atmas is that you can`t sell em. Will make millions out of rushers that doesn`t even need the atma/animus weapon to begin with.

[darkstarpoet1]

I'm sure you would feel differently if you were on the other end of the RNG stick, which is the whole purpose of the thread. Surely there is a way to make the quest long and time consuming so that not everyone is handed it freely and running around with relics...without making it completely based on dice.

You sir and the person who liked your post are selfish beyond comprehension.

i spent well over 100 hours farming mine. i wasn't on the lucky side of someone that spent 10 hours and got them all. i am one that asked for some kind of grind and longer term content and that's what this is. that is why i am glad it went in like it is.

edit: just adding that if being happy that this game is now more than a monday only game and that i have something to do 7 days a week makes me selfish then that's what i am. in fact i'll be glad that's what i am and you can get over it. no, this is not the most fun way they could have went about this quest, but being able to sign in and do something each day makes it worth its weight in gold after this one week lockout garbage we've had since release.

[indira]

RNG never hurt anything its the boring content attached to it. a 30 sec zerg then you wait for another to pop.