New Letter from the Producer, XII

[Richard]

15k would up the sp per leve, easily
i can see a 5k sp bonus at the end of a leve making it more like how they are now(i can see this number being pretty fair and accurate if they scale leves by rank, since there are currently 5 tiers)

they are rewarding completion with this is all it is, they arent "nerfing leves" after all
of course in the end, itl probly be a huge bonus to some of the lesser leves which sucked for sp beforehand

that all depends on what the new XP looks like with leves. Neither you, nor I, nor anyone knows what its going to be. If Dunesfolk for Dinner gives 5,000 XP solo now and the bonus is 5,000 XP - it still wont be as much XP as people were getting when failing. All speculation at this point.

[Fated]

Not really, you can get far higher than that based on enemy type and rank even at rank 50 (obviously SP means nothing at that point, though). However, the one truth right now is that it is NOT worth the effort to get those numbers.

[Evangela]

what's the point of splitting these information?

[Elexia]

Why doesn't he realize that having to go back to the leve counter is a massive deterrent for casual players?

I guess he doesn't full understand the laziness and "give it to me nao"ness of certain playerbases.

what's the point of splitting these information?

Nothing was split, get over it.

[SuzakuCMX]

Wrong phrase then, I mean the EXP.

Since I primarily solo, leve-linking terms mean little to me. Point is, they are upping the amount of exp you get in a leve.



Unless I am misunderstanding this. If I am, someone please explain better?

They're reducing the amount of SP/XP you get from going through the leve and instead shifting it to a bonus you get for completing it.

So instead of getting all SP/XP through killing the monsters, you get some from that and then some from completion.

EX: Say now you get 550 SP per monster and there are 10 monsters
You get 5550 SP for doing that leve

With this patch, say they reduce the SP amount to 300 per monster. You now only get 3000 SP for killing all the monsters.
Then, upon completing the leve via an aetherial node, you get a bonus 2550 SP.

You get the same amount of SP in the end, but only if you actually complete the leve.

At least, that's what makes sense to me.

[Richard]

Not really, you can get far higher than that based on enemy type and rank even at rank 50 (obviously SP means nothing at that point, though). However, the one truth right now is that it is NOT worth the effort to get those numbers.

That is why they are redoing mob distribution and maps and adding exp chains. I never said grinding was optimal now considering the highest base SP (WORTH GETTING) in the higher levels is 150.

I thought it was pretty obvious that we'd be discussing normal SP mobs. There is no point in killing R65+ mobs for SP.

[TheVedis]

that all depends on what the new XP looks like with leves. Neither you, nor I, nor anyone knows what its going to be. If Dunesfolk for Dinner gives 5,000 XP solo now and the bonus is 5,000 XP - it still wont be as much XP as people were getting when failing. All speculation at this point.

dunesfolk gives roughly 15-20k average right now, with a 4 man party, all linked up with aspect


you get 150 sp for the aspect
250 sp per link
(i think this is the numbers it was, cant remember for sure)

you get 300 sp base for the mobs


before you would average 16 mobs total per leve or so. that ended up being around 20k sp
so with no links, and no aspect, right now, you get close to 5k sp

linking isnt being removed, aspect isnt being changed at all
so add back in 2k sp for aspect, you still get 7k before linking

now even assuming they put a 50% hit to sp for links, you STILL will get 125 more sp per kill per link, thats roughly 2k more sp per link, rounding out around 5-6k more sp

so you end up with 12-13k sp, if its a 50% nerf(and i dont think it will be, i think itl be close to 25%)

so a 15k sp bonus isnt needed to "even it out" closer to a 5-6k sp bonus, on dunesfolk will do the trick


and of course, on most other leves, this isnt even close to the case, even a 5k bonus will boost you past what the current sp gains are in those



add in the removal of fatigue now....(yes thatl add up too)



but lets go with 5k sp, 8 leves, thats 40k BASE sp before you count mob kills, so sp wont be much different then it is now with that number, and i see it being around there(possibly 4k sp for 40s, i can see it being that low at most)

[Blitz0309]

OH NO IVE BEEN PLAYING A FREE GAME FOR 9 MONTHS MY LIFE WILL NEVER BE THE SAME EVERY AGAIN. They are posting a Producers Letter every week (most likely each monday) until 1.18 hits the 2nd - 3rd week of July. It will cover all of your wants and needs about the battle changes. Learn some ****ing patience. OH WAIT THATS RIGHT YOUVE BEEN WAITING 9 MONTHS AND IT ALL RAN OUT. /worlds smallest violin from Bard.

Lol, its not free. Hell i paid $70 for it. And i haven't been playing it either because its not worth the time. I might of put 20 hours in total on ffxiv, and i quickly realized i had to force myself to login.

And you want me to be patient after 9 months? I would say i've been more than patient, but i'm not going to try and reason with a child like you. At least i'm assuming you're a child, typing in caps isn't something a rational adult does.

Either way, they showed us a video of the battle system that they pretty much said "Well, this is what we have, this probably isn't what its going to be though". And no word has been released on jobs. All of this after 9 months. Yeah, you're right. I'm in the wrong.

[TheVedis]

Lol, its not free. Hell i paid $70 for it. And i haven't been playing it either because its not worth the time. I might of put 20 hours in total on ffxiv, and i quickly realized i had to force myself to login.

And you want me to be patient after 9 months? I would say i've been more than patient, but i'm not going to try and reason with a child like you. At least i'm assuming you're a child, typing in caps isn't something a rational adult does.

Either way, they showed us a video of the battle system that they pretty much said "Well, this is what we have, this probably isn't what its going to be though". And no word has been released on jobs. All of this after 9 months. Yeah, you're right. I'm in the wrong.

tell me again, why are you still here?

[AngryNixon]

Although Wolfie might disagree with me since he's always trolling me with crazy comments like "Your comments are stupid, I wish bats would attack you for no particular reason" or "That makes no sense, why won't you give me your carrot cake recipe, it's as if you're made entirely of indifference and left over turkey" I'll say it anyhow.

I for one thought Yoshida's (and the team's) assessment and repositioning of guildleves in the game and the way in which they went about it were very reasonable and rational steps to take that give me only hope for the future of this game. They espouse an underlying common sense that's refreshing to see.