If no one access a FC house in 35 Days you lose everything! Coming Patch 2.3 ><

[Arkista]

Taking away Plots of lands From Free Companies after 35 days of inactivity isn't going to help anyone. There are plenty of plots left on my server at least. I assume the reason why is that people want specific plot or specific wards. Adding more Wards is the only thing that is going to help. All this "if you don't use it you don't need it" thing is crap. If anyone really thinks that a FC is going to lose a Medium or Large house you are crazy! So what are FCs going to do wait months at a time and hope that FC on Plot 2 in Ward 3 never touches their house so they can buy it? People need to come back to reality. SE needs to add more Wards. As I said before this isn't going to effect very many FCs. But it will lead to a bigger issue Personal Housing. Yeah sure there are 250 people in the FC I could take a break and not worry about the house being gone. But what if this is applied to Personal Housing? If they do, no one that owns a house will be able to take break for more than 35 days. If they are doing this to FC housing, You can bet they will do it to personal housing. There are going to be thousands of Personal Houses compared to what 450 FC houses per server. If they have issues with 450 plots not being enough can you imagine how 4,500 plots are going to be? I don't know how many players there are on each server I remember them saying something like 6-7k lot of damn houses.

. Also, 4 people in the whole FC ? and they have a FC house?.

And your point? A Free Company only Requires Three People to start one. Never heard of players taking a break? Just because you take a break from the game for a month or two doesn't mean you quit. People take breaks often in the MMO world. MMOs don't make the world go round. I had a few friends that took a break after 2.1 and they just came back for 2.2. And it doesn't matter how many players are in a FC 1,5, or 500 a Free company is a free company. Not everyone needs dozens of players that they are probably never going to do anything with in their FCs.

A lot of you are ok with this because you are either in a big FC which is fine, Or you just don't think anything could happen to you. I don't think anyone here is trying to say that they should never remove a house. Many of us feel that the 35 day time period is to short. It should be longer or have an alternative.

Lots of you are thinking this is about players buying a FC house, paying there sub, and never touching their house. What people do with their Gil is up to them. But this is about small Free Companies losing something they put time in effort into. People get bored/burnt out/ Play other games/Cant pay bills or w/e (jail). Once this is implemented I can never take a break from the game for more than 35 days, Unless I hire someone to make an ALT to jump in my house once in a while. Or I just have to invite people I don't know or people I don't need to keep it.

All I meant with only 4 members, was that there are very few FC's around that have that few member and still have FC house, and to make up a story around how those 4 are all unable to log in for over month seems a little far fetched, that is all... No need to go calling people names.

The only reason for a FC (whatever size) to not be able to log in for 35 days, is if everyone takes a break at the same time... I mainly answered based on what people said about being unable to log in because of trips or whatever, but taking a break is another thing.

I think they can increase the time for that reason, but they have to have some type of restriction going forward into the game. If you take a break longer than 2 months, then you don't play anymore in other words....

I think you got it? There are a lot of FCs made up of small groups of friends. Mine started with 7 IRL friends/Family and 5 of them stopped playing. If I didn't have a static at the time I probably would have stopped playing until 2.2 as well. People take breaks with the intention of coming back all the time, I did it many times in the 9 years I played FFXI, The longest of which was over a year and it wasn't by choice.

And as I have said many times this is only going to effect a very very small minority of FCs. If they think removing an inactive FCs house is going to help then fine, But it needs to be handled better than 35 days of inactivity and you lose Everything.

[mbncd]

[Snip]Once this is implemented I can never take a break from the game for more than 35 days, Unless I hire someone to make an ALT to jump in my house once in a while. Or I just have to invite people I don't know or people I don't need to keep it.[Snip]

In addition to this, remember the whole "FC leader has to log in every month or so or they're demoted to basic member and someone who has been online in the last week gets promoted to leader, based on rank and seniority". Even if you bring in someone else just to step into the place once a month, chances are they'll be the new leader when you come back... Then who knows? They may very well boot you out of your own company and/or sell your house out from under you

[Ecks007]

Hmm, I get the OP. 35 days doesn't seem like enough considering the gil spent on the cost of a house. On Diabolos, houses are still stupid expensive. I could personally only afford a small house (2mil-ish), but who really want's a small house? For the FC I'm in we want a large house (which I think runs around 50mil), or possibly, if we have to make due because of the cost, a medium house (15mil-ish).

I would hate to spend all that gil on a house, end up having to take a break from the game and come back to find the FC house has vanished. (or my personal house, if this get's implemented) All in all, if the server can't handle having vacant houses for a month, then there is something really wrong with the servers.

I would totally be up for the suggestion of 90-120 days before such a thing occurred, if this is something that is definitely going to happen.

[JemC]

I'm for this but 35 days is way to short. Agree if people spent money and time in a house they should have a decent amount of time not to loose it.

[Starlord]

If they think removing an inactive FCs house is going to help then fine, But it needs to be handled better than 35 days of inactivity and you lose Everything.

May I ask how you would handle it? Curious.

[mbncd]

May I ask how you would handle it? Curious.

Arkista has mentioned 3 main suggestions that have come forward repeatedly throughout the thread:
Adding more instances instead,
Extending the period to 60-90 days
Sending some sort of compensation to the FC leader/bank (such as a land deed comparable to what was lost)

I'm not sure the compensation route would really work but the other two I strongly support.

[Limonia]

What school do you go to where final exams last 35 days?

All of the reasons you keep stating are laughable.

No one is going to take 5 weeks to have a baby... my wife was high risk and we spent a week in the hospital. I've had cousins who were ultra high risk and they were out of the hospital within 3 weeks.

5 weeks for a funeral? Where is this funeral taking place, Mars?

A "dorm-wide internet outage nightmare".... for 5 weeks? Seriously? Go to a friends house off campus, plug your computer in, log in, enter and exit your house. Problem solved.

SE isn't saying that you need to expand upon your housing every 35 days... just saying that someone needs to walk in the front door.

That takes all of 30 seconds, if that.


I swear, some people will just complain for the sake of complaining.


In closing... yes, SE is basically telling small FC's that they need to ensure ONE member maintains a subscription and logs in every 5 weeks in order to keep the FC housing. If this makes you mad becasue you were thinking of not paying for the next two months, then coming back and expecting your housing to be retained... you lose.

I didn't say anything like that, I think you quoted the wrong person.

But only because our FC consists only of 2 real persons we are NOT ALLOWED to take a break from the game that takes longer than 35 days but people of big FCs are?
It is only POSSIBLE that both of us are unable to not log in for more than 35 days because of an illness or whatever. But it is more likely that all members of a family based FC want to take a break from playing FF XIV for 2 months and don't pay the subscription for that time.
Does no one of you ever take breaks from playing a video game?
If you really lose your FC house if no one enters it for 35 days than really small FCs are FORCED to play every 35 days and that's just wrong.

[Arkista]

May I ask how you would handle it? Curious.

I don't have an issue with them wanting to remove an inactive Free Companies house. I do have an issue with SE only giving players 35 days. So what I have suggested and some people have suggested stuff too.

1- Extend the time to 90 days. That should be more than enough time for people to return from a break. Patches are every three months.
2- If it must be 35 days. Then upon the forfeit of the Free Company House, It should become a Land Deed and a Building Permit for the same size land that the Free Company had purchased. And sent to the Free Company Leader via Moogle Mail or sent to the FC chest.
3- Add more Wards. I mean honestly if you have the money to buy a house would you wait 35 days or more just to try and get a certain plot?

I think Option 1 is the easiest. And I think option 2 is the best if it must be 35 days at least then you only lose Furnishings and even then that could be millions of gil. Option 3 is what SE should be doing.

^^.

Thanks. ^^

[Arkista]

Here this is for all of you guys that are in disbelief about small FCs. Correct me if I'm wrong but does that say 47,281 FCs with 1-10 players?

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...nt=1-10&order=

There are more Free Companies with 1-10 players than all the others combined...

11-30 Players 15,251
31-50 Players 2,993
over 51 Players 2,973


Yes obviously not everyone owns a FC house.

[Kaela]

Okay, I agree that 35 days is a bit extreme. But I think I know where SE is trying to point out. What if say 2 years from now, all the plots are sold on all active servers. And yet there is several houses that are left untouch cause people took breaks or quit the game. That house is taking up space in the server that could be used for something else or by another fc. They are trying to cycle out the houses that are unused so that people who are wanting that plot can take it.