We need a response from Yoshi about the Atma quest.

[BlackHaloJT]

I personally find it hilarious that so many hardcore Legacy players were complaining about wanting ARR to be more like the days of 1.0 because they want the progression for gear to slow down and be more like the Darklight drops from 1.0, and then the Zodiac Weapons thing gets introduced, where the Atma thing is close to *identical* to the 1% Darklight drops from 1.0, and now all those people are complaining that it's taking too long and is too boring.

Nope we didn't want this Candy land easy mode hand me gear lobby instance theme park. Darklight drop rates sucked but it was something implemented as the game was at its end. People are complaining because they been on easy street since ARR launch now they have to grind for something.... People that are obsessed with getting something will find anyway to get it whether they have to complain till their eyes bleed, scratch and claw their way to it. If you want it bad enough you will find a way to get it. Do I think the Atma grind is challenging/fun- no just another time sink to distract the players while SE makes more rehashed dungeons.

Like I said before I blame SE/Yoshi for making relics easy to get in the first place. They were not that easy to get in 1.0 only a few percent had them and usually only one. Now that most people have them its not like they want them sitting in inventory collecting dust. Why not just do the grind collect the next trophy so you can stand around waiting for the next round of rehashed dungeons in the near future. Please look forward to it.

ARR brought in the entitlement era.

[Pinkk]

Nope we didn't want this Candy land easy mode hand me gear lobby instance theme park. Darklight drop rates sucked but it was something implemented as the game was at its end. People are complaining because they been on easy street since ARR launch now they have to grind for something.... People that are obsessed with getting something will find anyway to get it whether they have to complain till their eyes bleed, scratch and claw their way to it. If you want it bad enough you will find a way to get it. Do I think the Atma grind is challenging/fun- no just another time sink to distract the players while SE makes more rehashed dungeons.

Like I said before I blame SE/Yoshi for making relics easy to get in the first place. They were not that easy to get in 1.0 only a few percent had them and usually only one. Now that most people have them its not like they want them sitting in inventory collecting dust. Why not just do the grind collect the next trophy so you can stand around waiting for the next round of rehashed dungeons in the near future. Please look forward to it.

ARR brought in the entitlement era.

I really don't think you get what people are complaining about. They are not complaining about the grinding. They are complaining about the RNG. You are fighting RNG more than anything. There is no "light at the end of the tunnel" because no one knows when the tunnel ends. Like getting the 13500 mythology for the books, you know that as soon as you get the 13500 mythology you'll have all the books. What you don't know is x amount of Fates required to get Atma. It is completely random. Some people have been lucky and get the rather quickly like others (myself included) are not as lucky and spend hours/days getting them. I'd rather not fight RNG.

[BlackHaloJT]

I really don't think you get what people are complaining about. They are not complaining about the grinding. They are complaining about the RNG. You are fighting RNG more than anything. There is no "light at the end of the tunnel" because no one knows when the tunnel ends. Like getting the 13500 mythology for the books, you know that as soon as you get the 13500 mythology you'll have all the books. What you don't know is x amount of Fates required to get Atma. It is completely random. Some people have been lucky and get the rather quickly like others (myself included) are not as lucky and spend hours/days getting them. I'd rather not fight RNG.

Nah I get it really I do. Easy street to omg too much time I don't have time to play. Isn't that life itself? No one one knows when the tunnel ends.

[Pinkk]

Nah I get it really I do. Easy street to omg too much time I don't have time to play. Isn't that life itself? No one one knows when the tunnel ends.

You still don't get it. When you play a game you expect a certain outcome at a certain point. Like you are guaranteed to get a drop if you beat Titan EX or you are guaranteed a weathered item if you spend x amount of Soldiery tokens etc, but there is no guaranteed that you'll get an atma item if you spend x amount of hours or do x amount of FATEs. They could make it super hard or super easy, I don't care as long as there is a clear goal of what a user needs to do to get the item not: "May the odds be ever in your favor" bull crap.

[BlackHaloJT]

You still don't get it. When you play a game you expect a certain outcome at a certain point. Like you are guaranteed to get a drop if you beat Titan EX or you are guaranteed a weathered item if you spend x amount of Soldiery tokens etc, but there is no guaranteed that you'll get an atma item if you spend x amount of hours or do x amount of FATEs. They could make it super hard or super easy, I don't care as long as there is a clear goal of what a user needs to do to get the item not: "May the odds be ever in your favor" bull crap.

There was never a guarantee in primal drops in 1.0 either, or tokens for that matter. Do you know how many fights I used to have to do just for a drop. Now that was some bs Rng. Like I said times have changed and ARR brought in the entitlement era. Fights are super easier now too. People seemed to be doing fine with the Atma drops. I will agree to disagree sorry.

[Razard]

There was never a guarantee in primal drops in 1.0 either, or tokens for that matter. Do you know how many fights I used to have to do just for a drop. Now that was some bs Rng. Like I said times have changed and ARR brought in the entitlement era. Fights are super easier now too. People seemed to be doing fine with the Atma drops. I will agree to disagree sorry.

And exactly how many people where playing 1.0 and thought it was good?

I rest my case.

[Jekyll]

And exactly how many people where playing 1.0 and thought it was good?

I rest my case.

1.0 the game has nothing to do with 1.0 relics.

People in this game do feel entitled and it's sad. This is supposed to be a long term goal.

[BlackHaloJT]

And exactly how many people where playing 1.0 and thought it was good?

I rest my case.

Rest your case.. I said nothing about how many people were playing 1.0 and would that matter? Congrats your first post I wish it could of been more epic for you.