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    Player Killance's Avatar
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    Atma weapon isn't worth the farm.

    It really isn't. My FC managed to get to Coil 9 this week and shows you don't need the atma to get that far. Most likely don't need it to down it either.

    I don't mind grind, I refuse to grind 10+ hours for each atma.

    And what is the other players take on this?






    PS- This needs another thread, atma was a terrible idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killance View Post
    It really isn't. My FC managed to get to Coil 9 this week and shows you don't need the atma to get that far. Most likely don't need it to down it either.

    I don't mind grind, I refuse to grind 10+ hours for each atma.

    And what is the other players take on this?






    PS- This needs another thread, atma was a terrible idea.
    It only took me 9 hours to get all the atmas (two hours alone for the last one) and I agree that right now it's not worth it. It also takes about a day to grind enough myth / finish one book. I'm still doing it simply because it will always be a formidable weapon. It will always be upgraded as the game progresses, so it will always serve a purpose.

    It's not the best, it's certainly not the worst. If it continues to be that way, I'm happy with it.
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    Considering the chance to get it is the exact same each time, I don't see the point of trying to farm it for so long. When you're bored of it, do something else for a while. 100 plus failures does not make the 101st any more likely to be a success.
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    YOu just now figured out that you don't need the atma to do all that? Did you just realize that the atma's stats are no different then the zenith's stats unless you do books?

    It doesn't take 10+ hours for each atma either. I got 6 atma in less then an hour, with three of them dropping in only 5 minutes. It's all the luck of the draw. While the method for attaining atmas may not be the most fitting for end game content, it's still not a terrible idea. Everyday someone would post on these forums about how bored with the game they are because they have "nothing to do". With the way atma and animus weapons work, NO ONE can complain about having nothing to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slatervonjager View Post
    YOu just now figured out that you don't need the atma to do all that? Did you just realize that the atma's stats are no different then the zenith's stats unless you do books?
    I'm pretty sure he's saying this for other people who still haven't realized it, not that he has completed it himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Try arguing that point to players who have literally spent 6 hours in the SAME DARNED ZONE without a single Atma drop.
    You act like 6 hours for one atma is that bad. if you honestly think that, then you are clearly new to the concept of farming. Come back and gripe about atmas when you've played game that you spent 1500 hours in farming a particular item and only received 2 of them.


    Quote Originally Posted by dragonflie View Post
    I'm pretty sure he's saying this for other people who still haven't realized it, not that he has completed it himself.
    Its mostly sarcasm dude. To many "I wanna whine about atma" threads.
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    Player JayCommon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slatervonjager View Post
    It doesn't take 10+ hours for each atma either.
    Heh, don't say this then turn around 2 sentences later and say this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Slatervonjager View Post
    It's all the luck of the draw.
    My FC friend spent the entire weekend doing nothing but Atma farming and he got 2. The ENTIRE weekend. I know how long it was, he was bitching in voice chat for a good 20 hrs out of all 3 days. The experience is different for everyone. I got all mine across 2 days of playing time. This threw him into enrage mode because he literally spent over 9hrs in one area and never got a drop.

    The rest I agree with. It does give people something to do. Just don't say something is completely random and then dispute how long it took them.
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    Last edited by JayCommon; 04-08-2014 at 05:31 AM. Reason: bad grammar/spelling

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayCommon View Post
    Heh, don't say this then turn around 2 sentences later and say this:
    I can, will, and DID say it, so eat it.

    It is luck of the draw, but it does NOT take 10+ hours for each atma. I can dispute the OP's 10+ hours claim all I want. Because generalizing it as he did, in a manner stating that it takes that long for everyone is incorrect.

    If you're friend had that bad of a time, its his fault and his fault alone. It's called stop and do other things, taking a break so that you don't become stressed out and start raging. The fact that, as you put it, he spent the entire weekend doing atma farming and was raging, is nothing but his own fault, and as his "friend", and this also applies to your FC, you should have done something about it. If he was getting that upset, then it is your, and your FC's job to say, "hey man, lets go do something together, take a break for now". If he refuses, and wont stop raging, You threaten to boot him from TS, vent, whatever you use, and the Linkshell or whatever until he either does something else, calms the hell down, or just shuts up altogether.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slatervonjager View Post
    I can, will, and DID say it, so eat it.

    It is luck of the draw, but it does NOT take 10+ hours for each atma. I can dispute the OP's 10+ hours claim all I want. Because generalizing it as he did, in a manner stating that it takes that long for everyone is incorrect.
    It took me 15+ collective hours to get 1 atma to drop in western la noscea. This was broken up with doing other stuff, but after the first run of 4 hours, (i was watching GoT reruns and I watched 4 episodes) I started keeping a log, because I wanted to know. 15 total hours and almost a thousand fates later, and I got the drop.

    You can't make a claim like that when something is clearly based only on luck. Well, you can, and you did, but you're still wrong.
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    Player Killance's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slatervonjager View Post
    I can, will, and DID say it, so eat it.

    It is luck of the draw, but it does NOT take 10+ hours for each atma. I can dispute the OP's 10+ hours claim all I want. Because generalizing it as he did, in a manner stating that it takes that long for everyone is incorrect.
    Most people seem to have a couple of Atma that take 10+ hours. A lot of people in my FC can't get a Atma within the first 15 hours. So yes, it can and mostly likely will take 10 hours+ for a atma.

    Saying it isn't true is like saying you don't look at the complaints on the forums.
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