Atmas - Unfair for low level players

[MeiUshu]

I agree for the over run, I am a lvl 50 and I see this happening day in and day out, I dont even want to do my Atmas because of it, groups run like mad people, sometimes there are so many people that is even impossible to target a single mob...is discouraging to be honest.

I am not sure what the solution would be... right now is kind of packed....too packed to even want to do the fates...I understand Atmas must be hard to get but using fates isnt in my opinion in the current state not a very good solution....maybe force people to do dungeons outside the daily roulettes...and assign points based on participation and contribution inside the dungeon and etc etc etc..not sure really ....right now even for me levelling my summoner is just impossible using fates...

Mei

[Kat_Manx]

What? Confusing... I had been putting off leveling Lancer because I don't really like it but I need certain skills for my Bard, so when I realized people went Atma crazy and do FATE's over and over, instead of going in there with my Bard to hunt Atma too I rushed there with my Lancer and bashed away tons of exp faster than I have done in weeks, because DPS queue for dungeons is no fun.

So basically I was just super excited about insanely fast insanely easy EXP. So like..whaaaa? o.o;

[Duuude007]

What it comes down to is the OP's 'friends' are trying to get credit on fates against a large number of players, and can't seem to generate enough enmity to get gold.

This is not a coding issue, this is a skill learning curve. Maximize enmity while hastily competing with other (similarly leveled) parties. (Which can be augmented by having a full party of your own)

Even if nobody had the chocobo advantage for transit, i would imagine the OP's 'friends' would still be struggling to get golds, based on the arguments presented.

[Talec]

what overrun are you talikin about? on Shiva the ATMA Run is already largely over. 2-3 days people run around like mobs but now you're lucky if you find 2 more players when you start a FATE.

[JeniLinsky]

What it comes down to is the OP is trying to get credit on fates against a large number of players, and can't seem to generate enough enmity to get gold.

Why are so many people so sure that the OP has motives other than what they've expressed in their posts throughout this thread? They simply see an outcome that probably is not what the game designers intended, and has pointed it out.

I don't think anyone (except maybe those who are halfway through the process, and probably not even most of them) have anything really invested in the current method of gaining atma. So... why are people arguing so hard that IT MUST STAY EXACTLY AS IT IS! SO SAY WE ALL! ?

[Duuude007]

Why are so many people so sure that the OP has motives other than what they've expressed in their posts throughout this thread? They simply see an outcome that probably is not what the game designers intended, and has pointed it out.

I don't think anyone (except maybe those who are halfway through the process, and probably not even most of them) have anything really invested in the current method of gaining atma. So... why are people arguing so hard that IT MUST STAY EXACTLY AS IT IS! SO SAY WE ALL! ?

We arent?

OP is suggesting a specific change designed to limit competition, but has no clear solution on what the high end players are supposed to do if shunted out of the low zones. Should they be granted free atma in those areas? Of course not. So then, what?

Solving an issue by implementing a similar issue is no resolution at all. Its passing the buck.

[Lucke]

"Low level players should not be doing low level FATES!"

Ok, then just erase FATES from the game entirely then, since we're not supposed to use them for EXP.

Or even better, let's just make every FATE in the game level 50, because you know, level 15 people aren't supposed to do level 15 FATEs, those noobs...trying to get EXP, the horror! pshaw!

[JeniLinsky]

OP is suggesting a specific change designed to limit competition, but has no clear solution on what the high end players are supposed to do if shunted out of the low zones.

I don't see that at all. What I see is her offering two distinct solutions:

I suggest that either you increase the drop rate a lot or just limit certain FATEs for only 50s to farm in. Because none of them are working properly.

So she's saying there are two things that could be done to resolve the problem she sees:

1. Up the drop rate, so that those high level players farming the low level FATEs get them quickly and leave the area, which would presumably mean that low level players could resume doing low level FATEs at the rate they're comfortable doing them,

OR


2. Restrict (and publish the restriction) the Atma drops to a subset of the FATEs in the low-level areas, so that the low-level players can still enjoy the ones that the high level players aren't swarming.

I don't see that either of those solutions limits the availability of Atmas, or limits competition from those who want Atmas.

[Elvin]

Atmas, a great desing decision to fuck high and low level players equally, hehe

[Arlekiel]

I cant believe some of the arguments, people are posting here...
The point is not about if the op has her atma or not..
The point here is not what is "efficient" to do at low levels....

Its about a content DESIGNED to be for players of certain level... and now being cleared by players of high level.

Its about new players, or players who are leveling a new class.. or players who just want to do fates.

If Im a level 40 monk and I want to do fates designed for my level... EVEN THOUGH theres a better way to level up, even though I have the challenge log, dutty roullette, and ALL sorts of ways to level up... IF theres a fate designed FOR ME to play,and waste my OWN time doing it... then I should be able to experience it at its fullest...