Leves should be removed or atleast downplayed for overall gameplay?

[Renshi]

Heya!

No, they shouldn't. It's perfect content for those who don't have much time to dedicate on the game (myself included).
I like some challenge when I don't do leves in a party, so I just take a leve and put it 5 stars and see if I can come out with some strategies or whatsoever, and if I can't do it, I just drop it by 1 star and redo the spiral.

See ya!

[Drunk-Bandit]

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Yea... Some of us causal gamers... actually have rl jobs... and don't see the point of mindless grinding for hours... lol if that's your kinda thing however... go for it!

[Vackashken]

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Yea... Some of us causal gamers... actually have rl jobs... and don't see the point of mindless grinding for hours... lol if that's your kinda thing however... go for it!

I have a job, a child and one on the way, weight lift, do BJJ along with general parenting and still think leves should not be the focus of the game and am repulsed by how easy they make it. Don't play that card because it doesn't apply to everyone who has a "job".

[giftforce]

Heya!

No, they shouldn't. It's perfect content for those who don't have much time to dedicate on the game (myself included).
I like some challenge when I don't do leves in a party, so I just take a leve and put it 5 stars and see if I can come out with some strategies or whatsoever, and if I can't do it, I just drop it by 1 star and redo the spiral.

See ya!

It's actually really time-consuming finding a leve party any time that isn't immediately after reset.

THe camps are all deserted and so you have to either do the leves yourself or find something else to do.

Doing the leves by yourself yields as much SP as soloing free-roaming non-leve mobs and so nearly defeats the purpose.

So... the leve system is not this perfect thing that is accessible for everyone. I feel like it fails to be what they wanted it to be.

[Renshi]

It's actually really time-consuming finding a leve party any time that isn't immediately after reset.

THe camps are all deserted and so you have to either do the leves yourself or find something else to do.

Doing the leves by yourself yields as much SP as soloing free-roaming non-leve mobs and so nearly defeats the purpose.

So... the leve system is not this perfect thing that is accessible for everyone. I feel like it fails to be what they wanted it to be.

Finding party is time-consuming. You can't do nothing about that.
If you're searching for a party, you know that you don't begin searching in the camp, but in the city-state instead. There are so many recruitments for parties anyway, so I don't see a problem on it. Also there are more people to search for.

And I'm not doing leves alone for SPs. For Challenge instead.

[giftforce]

Finding party is time-consuming. You can't do nothing about that.
If you're searching for a party, you know that you don't begin searching in the camp, but in the city-state instead. There are so many recruitments for parties anyway, so I don't see a problem on it. Also there are more people to search for.

And I'm not doing leves alone for SPs. For Challenge instead.

I have spent over an hour in Uldah waiting for a party to do leves. There is a peak time immediately after reset when parties are easy to get, but after that it becomes exponentially more difficult.

And the point of FFXIV at the moment is "SP SP SP SP SP" so you can't blame people for being narrow minded about it.

If SE wanted to make the game more accessible, they should have made an automatic party-finder or else made the search system 1000 times more functional.

Leve quests do not have the intended purpose.

[Renshi]

I have spent over an hour in Uldah waiting for a party to do leves. There is a peak time immediately after reset when parties are easy to get, but after that it becomes exponentially more difficult.

And the point of FFXIV at the moment is "SP SP SP SP SP" so you can't blame people for being narrow minded about it.

If SE wanted to make the game more accessible, they should have made an automatic party-finder or else made the search system 1000 times more functional.

Leve quests do not have the intended purpose.

Ok, bringing on the topic theme, remove the Guildleves and go out killing monsters until you get to 50.
Now I can't see a point in playing aside from crafting or gathering. Are you sure you don't want Guildleves anymore?

The Party Search system is fine. People don't use it because it's a pain to access the menu, open a recruitment and waiting since no one will ever check it unless you shout for the use. So it's people's problem for not using it.
If the Dev team will add things like LFP indicators (which they'll do), then the Party Search system will be used. For now is a bunch of people screaming for party in Shouts.

[danny52844]

Heya!

No, they shouldn't. It's perfect content for those who don't have much time to dedicate on the game (myself included).
I like some challenge when I don't do leves in a party, so I just take a leve and put it 5 stars and see if I can come out with some strategies or whatsoever, and if I can't do it, I just drop it by 1 star and redo the spiral.

See ya!

well ya i know the title is misleading but what im saying is lol :| that leves should still be here but they should be less rewarding behest should be more often and random *like ff11 campagin :|* and other things should be added in and they all give exp so the casual gamer can go do those while ppl :| like me :| could mainly party and do behest and leves on the side while the casual can do the leves mainly whille partying on the side when they have time

[Renshi]

well ya i know the title is misleading but what im saying is lol :| that leves should still be here but they should be less rewarding behest should be more often and random *like ff11 campagin :|* and other things should be added in and they all give exp so the casual gamer can go do those while ppl :| like me :| could party and do thos eon the side while the casual can do the little things whille partying on the side when they ahve time

Prefacing that I've not understood 90% of that, what do you mean by "Other things should be added"? More so, what do you think they should add?

[danny52844]

Prefacing that I've not understood 90% of that, what do you mean by "Other things should be added"? More so, what do you think they should add?

maybe a conquest minigame thingie (when i say minigame i mean things like behest and that) maybe a reward system for killing monsters (normal monsters) around a certain area for bonus exp or items :X? idc more things like that