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    I beat him today. it's more a point of perseverence to find 7 other players that know the fight than actually executing it.

    but gating content the way theyve done with ex primals and new coil turns is still stupid. a LOT of players will get left behind if they dont drop that requirement soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IgnisFatuus View Post
    I beat him today. it's more a point of perseverence to find 7 other players that know the fight than actually executing it.

    but gating content the way theyve done with ex primals and new coil turns is still stupid. a LOT of players will get left behind if they dont drop that requirement soon.
    They've made it so all the players can effectively play with gear beyond the level of those of us who earned it at the old content cap. I don't think they need to drop the requirement - people just need to play better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    They've made it so all the players can effectively play with gear beyond the level of those of us who earned it at the old content cap. I don't think they need to drop the requirement - people just need to play better.
    im not asking for handouts. people will still wipe if they don't have a clue. just let them wipe at something new for a change.

    2.2 is virtually just a big carrot for many people in my fc. content should be available to everyone (not the same as beatable). personally, i also think the buffs are a completely wrong way to get people to play "right".
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    Quote Originally Posted by IgnisFatuus View Post
    im not asking for handouts. people will still wipe if they don't have a clue. just let them wipe at something new for a change.

    2.2 is virtually just a big carrot for many people in my fc. content should be available to everyone (not the same as beatable). personally, i also think the buffs are a completely wrong way to get people to play "right".
    All updates in this kind of MMORPG will be a "big carrot on a stick." Also no, true MMOs will gate content and keep people playing. Leaving content "available to everyone" is why MMOs get boring fast because all content will laid out and beaten very very quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IgnisFatuus View Post
    I beat him today. it's more a point of perseverence to find 7 other players that know the fight than actually executing it.

    but gating content the way theyve done with ex primals and new coil turns is still stupid. a LOT of players will get left behind if they dont drop that requirement soon.
    While I agree that its pointless to gate the primals as Titan is probably the hardest, I do think that locking coil in this way is good at it makes players strive for progression.

    Besides next week isn't it going to be on DF and ever following 2 weeks an echo buff will be applied, so it will be easy enough for everyone soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    While I agree that its pointless to gate the primals as Titan is probably the hardest, I do think that locking coil in this way is good at it makes players strive for progression.

    Besides next week isn't it going to be on DF and ever following 2 weeks an echo buff will be applied, so it will be easy enough for everyone soon.
    Titan EX is the one fight where the Echo doesn't actually help outside of more damage. Weight of the Land plumes are so huge and the arena so little that they generally (99% of the time) are stacked, that's 5 plumes that someone will eat and outside of a Tank with max echo and insane HP they're going to die. If I have someone that needs to be helped with Weight, I tell them to stay towards the back of the arena that way at the most they'll only eat 1 which is healable, that makes 4 under the main group. Then you have bombs, eating 1 bomb is healable but people try to dodge that 1 bomb and end up eating 2 lol. Gaols take out 1 DD and 1 Healer for a duration of the fight. Echo Buff does help the fight, but it doesn't make it 100% winnable with so many insta-kill abilities (this coming from someone who has no problem with Titan EX).
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