You are One of 2 kinds of player.

[KenzieLynch]

Regarding the Relic Upgrade quest, I think many players who are complaining about RNG need to look into the mirror and consider which one of these 2 groups you fit into. Either:

a) You want the upgraded Relic for something other than Coil, most likely for vanity or to show that you have it.

b) You need it for Coil progression.

If you fall into group a), then there really is no rush to have it. You don't need this level weapon for anything other than Coil (and may not even need it then)

If you fall into group b) you are complaining about RNG when trying to obtain a weapon that will allow you to progress onto content that also relies heavily on RNG. Yeah...

So, which are you?

[Meleoffs]

C) Completely ignoring because you don't need it for progression into coil because the leviathan weapon does the job just fine.

[Jinko]

Both.

10 characters....

[Doo]

I don't mind rng, I mind boringggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg.

[Diadumenos]

<- votes A

[Gwaeron]

Neither. I want it for coil but I don't need it.

[Cid_Grim]

Meh, I'll get it when I get it.

Very low on my priority list.

[NintenPyjak64]

C) Completely ignoring because you don't need it for progression into coil because the leviathan weapon does the job just fine.

This. Take all of my "likes"

[Calyanare]

If you fall into group b) you are complaining about RNG when trying to obtain a weapon that will allow you to progress onto content that also relies heavily on RNG. Yeah...

Except that in Coil farming, if you complete the Turn, you are guaranteed that something will drop. It may not be something you want, and even if it is you may not get it, but there is a 100% drop rate in Coil. This is very different, psychologically, than doing something that seems to have about a 2% drop rate. Granted, when it does drop, it is always the thing you want and you don't have to compete for it, but the two are not the same at all.

I see what you are getting at, but I think you are just splitting hairs.

The other part of it is that Coil is much more satisfying. It's a clearly defined experience. You go, you do it (and it's significantly more challenging than FATEs any day), something drops, and it's over. I suppose technically FATEs are the same, but they don't feel the same. You're running around a zone spamming skill 1 and skill 2 because you can't access anything else, and as soon as one FATE ends (and yeah, you get gil and seals and maybe some low level crafting mats but so what?) you have to run to the next one. I suppose on a purely mechanical level it's the same as spamming a Coil turn for loot, but psychologically the two are very different. It's kinda like the difference between running on a treadmill (what FATEs feels like) and playing laser tag (what Coil feels like). One is actually fun, and the other you mostly do because you have no choice if you want the reward.

That said, I'm not exactly spending my life on Atma to the exclusion of all else. I've done 31 hours of farming since the patch, and I'm 3/12. I would just greatly prefer it if there was an end in sight, that I could have some idea of when I'll be able to complete it, and luck was removed so that the grind was equal for everyone.

[ValorSekari]

Group C