Fix ATMA or I quit

[Norondor]

Ok so I guess I'm not allowed to disagree with you

yes. you're literally not allowed to disagree that other people find the extreme RNG gambling component objectionable; you can't disagree with someone else disliking the quest, the content, the grind, or whatever else. think what you like about it; they pay just as much as you to play and if they don't feel they're getting their money's worth, your self-righteousness doesn't do anything to change it.

and for that matter, as far as you PERSONALLY being screwed by RNG goes, feel free to take as much abuse from S-E as you like, but there's similarly nothing you can "disagree with" when it comes to other people being locked out of progression and upgrades, despite working just as hard as anyone else, due to nothing but sheer dumb luck. it is something that is factually, objectively happening, right this very moment, and your little opinions can't do anything about that, sorry.

[Immut]

yes. you're literally not allowed to disagree that other people find the extreme RNG gambling component objectionable; you can't disagree with someone else disliking the quest, the content, the grind, or whatever else. think what you like about it; they pay just as much as you to play and if they don't feel they're getting their money's worth, your self-righteousness doesn't do anything to change it.

Ok so you apparently don't like it, but don't believe it needs to be changed. Because while I can't say "no you totally like this," I can definitely say "these numbers are fine from a game balance perspective and they don't need to be boosted." Obviously if I can't disagree, then we must agree.

Also you actually pay more than me. Legacy ftw.

[Norondor]

Ok so you apparently don't like it, but don't believe it needs to be changed. Because while I can't say "no you totally like this," I can definitely say "this numbers are fine from a game balance perspective and they don't need to be boosted."

Hey, remember that opinion that i pointed out doesn't matter? It's that one! Even if you feel it's fine, i, and lots of other people, don't feel that spending anywhere from 6 to 200 hours getting literally nothing for our time is fine by any definition of the word.

And yeah, i'm legacy too. I played at NA release and this is more odious to me, enough that i'm cancelling.

also like, idle question: are you and the other SE white knights aware of what the forums are for? It's not trolling other players, if you were wondering, nor is it for trying to show off how above-it-all and archly clever you are, or brag about how quick you got your drops. If you don't have commentary for the developers, you really should stop posting.

[Exitusworld]

im not sure exactly how to feel about it but ive spent 12hours and like 500 fates in central la noscea....OH sorry wait middle la noscea and still havnt gotten the darn thing while i hear of other finishing whole quest in the same time its taking me just to get this 1. the fact that its possible that it just might not drop at all making it harder to do content in the game when most people and even raids have lvl requirements. Its like putting up a huge wall to those that are just unlucky. is a fail-safe to much to ask for, like a certain number of fates then it hasto drop from that zone? not like i can go after extremes when 90% of the partys expect you to have a clear or they dont want you. Just kinda sucks alot to be unlucky

[Exitusworld]

besides that TC reminds of people in 11 who mained thf and could never get LL drop after 100 trys.

[dmikhail]

My main Monk is i90, I don't need ATMA. However, I played FFXI and I refuse to keep playing a game if it's going in that direction. I'll just bow out now, if people genuinely want a horrible grind of a game, power to them. Sadly my job and social life take up a lot of my time. I enjoyed the fact that with a competent casual coil/EX raid group most of us were able to achieve i85-i90 before the release of 2.2 with 2 nights of 2 hours a night. This ATMA garbage is just a grind to keep people busy with limited content.

I did my time in FFXI, I'm not doing it again and I'll find something else to occupy my limited gaming time.

Yeah I agree, I feel the same about this going the 11 way of pain in the ass + mind numbing repetition = challenging content

[Kret]

They have already said the weapons will be best around 2.3. Sooo you can keep up or spam it all later it's up to you. If you truly want it now you spend more time farming less time QQing

[hespera1978]

They have already said the weapons will be best around 2.3. Sooo you can keep up or spam it all later it's up to you. If you truly want it now you spend more time farming less time QQing

I myself agree with this if you wanna QQ about this go do the extreme primals and get the Levi EX weapon. If you are farming atmas get over it! it is your choice to farm them and not SE fault that you wanna go the route of farming atmas. You have 2 other directions to get better weapons.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Because farming for weapon drops via RNG is a better method than this?

[nocks]

I have pretty much stopped playing over this, and will cancel sooner or later. As a casual yet devoted player (ilevel 88) I haven't been able to get a Duty Finder group through Garuda EX after dozens of tries - so Leviathan EX is out of reach. And I'm simply not going to spend dozens of hours farming ATMA weapons when it took a developer dozens of minutes to put the quest together; I've already done these fates, and it's crazy lazy to think I would want to do them again. I'm happy taking the long road, but it needs to be attainable - I would rather just pay 10,000 tomes of myth, for instance, since I can slowly chip away at that by doing instances and having fun.