Fix ATMA or I quit

[valho]

Mostgly its a "time killer". You arent supposed to spend all your time on it, just an hour here and there when you got nothin better going on (like standing around in Mor Dhona). There is more than enough time to get this all done.

So much truth in this, that is how I farm my atma, and well I have completed mine since started doing it on and off a day after patch.
I do not feel burn since I did not continuously farm for hours, I get to enjoy other contents while farming it.

[Immut]

My FC's dragoon has 8 atma. Since the last time he updated us, three days ago when he had one atma (which took somewhere between one and two hours, because he got frustrated that they weren't dropping for him, even though they WERE and he missed the notification so some of us ended up with up to FOUR), he's had a total of maybe ten hours where we didn't know exactly where he was and what he was doing.

The drop rate is fine. If you don't like it, just don't get atma. Nobody's forcing you. Go get a leviathan or soldiery weapon. For most classes they're better anyway.

[Norondor]

My FC's dragoon has 8 atma. Since the last time he updated us, three days ago when he had one atma (which took somewhere between one and two hours, because he got frustrated that they weren't dropping for him, even though they WERE and he missed the notification so some of us ended up with up to FOUR), he's had a total of maybe ten hours where we didn't know exactly where he was and what he was doing.

The drop rate is fine. If you don't like it, just don't get atma. Nobody's forcing you. Go get a leviathan or soldiery weapon. For most classes they're better anyway.

siggggggggggggggggh

Hey! quick thought exercise for everyone in these threads mentioning how fast they got their atma; if like, hundreds of people were posting that a major plot progression quest was simply broken, they couldn't turn it in, mobs wouldn't spawn, etc. but it had worked for you when you tried... would you feel the need to jump in and ask what all the whiners were complaining about?

No? Because that would be incredibly redundant, condescending and stupid? Cool! Please keep it in mind in the future, and thanks in advance.

[Immut]

Ok so I guess I'm not allowed to disagree with you because that would be condescending. But the drop rate is still fine. This is a quest meant to take months and some people already have multiple atmas after a week. You don't see me whining that I still haven't gotten a titanic sawfish. It's frustrating, but it's there, I know I can get it, and I just have to keep trying because I don't expect everything to be handed to me on a silver platter.

[Norondor]

Ok so I guess I'm not allowed to disagree with you

yes. you're literally not allowed to disagree that other people find the extreme RNG gambling component objectionable; you can't disagree with someone else disliking the quest, the content, the grind, or whatever else. think what you like about it; they pay just as much as you to play and if they don't feel they're getting their money's worth, your self-righteousness doesn't do anything to change it.

and for that matter, as far as you PERSONALLY being screwed by RNG goes, feel free to take as much abuse from S-E as you like, but there's similarly nothing you can "disagree with" when it comes to other people being locked out of progression and upgrades, despite working just as hard as anyone else, due to nothing but sheer dumb luck. it is something that is factually, objectively happening, right this very moment, and your little opinions can't do anything about that, sorry.

[Immut]

yes. you're literally not allowed to disagree that other people find the extreme RNG gambling component objectionable; you can't disagree with someone else disliking the quest, the content, the grind, or whatever else. think what you like about it; they pay just as much as you to play and if they don't feel they're getting their money's worth, your self-righteousness doesn't do anything to change it.

Ok so you apparently don't like it, but don't believe it needs to be changed. Because while I can't say "no you totally like this," I can definitely say "these numbers are fine from a game balance perspective and they don't need to be boosted." Obviously if I can't disagree, then we must agree.

Also you actually pay more than me. Legacy ftw.

[Fayto]

dumb

Posting ad hominem and other fallacies doesn't make your points valid, evidence does.

[Exitusworld]

im not sure exactly how to feel about it but ive spent 12hours and like 500 fates in central la noscea....OH sorry wait middle la noscea and still havnt gotten the darn thing while i hear of other finishing whole quest in the same time its taking me just to get this 1. the fact that its possible that it just might not drop at all making it harder to do content in the game when most people and even raids have lvl requirements. Its like putting up a huge wall to those that are just unlucky. is a fail-safe to much to ask for, like a certain number of fates then it hasto drop from that zone? not like i can go after extremes when 90% of the partys expect you to have a clear or they dont want you. Just kinda sucks alot to be unlucky

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Because farming for weapon drops via RNG is a better method than this?

[nocks]

I have pretty much stopped playing over this, and will cancel sooner or later. As a casual yet devoted player (ilevel 88) I haven't been able to get a Duty Finder group through Garuda EX after dozens of tries - so Leviathan EX is out of reach. And I'm simply not going to spend dozens of hours farming ATMA weapons when it took a developer dozens of minutes to put the quest together; I've already done these fates, and it's crazy lazy to think I would want to do them again. I'm happy taking the long road, but it needs to be attainable - I would rather just pay 10,000 tomes of myth, for instance, since I can slowly chip away at that by doing instances and having fun.