Reason behind The Whorleater Extreme is not DF?

[Sygmaelle]

If you got really too legit dps, Levi EX can be a nightmare by skippin too much phases

Other than that, out of all EX fights, its probably the one I cleaned in the fastest timeframe along with Ifrit EX. I'd say that, toward the end where they are a lot of water aoes + levi dives to dodge, its quite hard to spot everything at the same time and move accordingly

[razzgrizz3]

i have him on farm already in one of these "clear" partys that you guys mention, but i can totaly understand these anoyed at this.
when patch first came out i brought the exact same issues up but got called a troll and told to stop qq by these disgusting white knights.
removing it from df was retarded to be sure. and to these of you shouting like idiots "hurrrrr duurrrr make your own pf huehuehuheue whuuuaat is problem?" consider how it screws over a lot of people that as mentioned here want to simply get some practice, not to mention these of us that like to play late at night when you see 2 parties in pf at most and cant choose from the biger df player pool.
also how the hell would this being in df inconvenience ANYBODY AT ALL? would it affect anybody? no.well maybe square enix that are cuting corners everywhere with this game. must save that money on these servers man and £%$£ the customers we dont care!

[Zaiken]

Well, I try to make my own Party and say in Description "Practice Party." Sometime it work out, but sometime I get people leave right away after couple of wipe. Even if I get a good party that have a chance to clear, they gave up too.

Since Duty Finder there is a Penalty for leaving, people likely to stick around. I learn more from Duty Finder then Party Finder. As Content get older and older, I tend to see people lose patient and expect Wins. So I'm a bit worried if there is no Duty Finder soon for it. People laugh and giggle when Levi Extreme come out, now people just expect exp and win all the time when they join. I think Duty Finder is great for some good practice without a lot of drama and inconvenient of waiting for people to join in and hoping they stick around. I get my Titan Extreme win by doing Duty Finder a few time with friends, then when we know we can get it down, we Party Finder for exp people and down it.

[Delorean]

lol who gets knocked off by spinning dive

Putting Leviathan EX in the DF does not effect me at all, but I just cannot agree that for the types of players you find in DF, that Leviathan is actually easier than Titan.

it's just a nightmare waiting to happen. messing up on Leviathan is easier and adds up a lot faster than messing up on titan does.

I'm not seeing how that necessarily equates to "lots of room for error"

You don't have to agree with me; I am not the one that you need to convince to make this change. But at the end of the day, it is all pretty easy stuff.

I just find Titan to be comically easy and Leviathan to be more menacing so I am expressing an opinion reflecting that view.

[Merle]

Well, I try to make my own Party and say in Description "Practice Party." Sometime it work out, but sometime I get people leave right away after couple of wipe. Even if I get a good party that have a chance to clear, they gave up too.

I'll never understand this. 2 Weeks ago i joined a "T5 training party" and we had to wait almost 2 hours to get a full party. When we went to T5, we had back luck and our mt d/cd in the same moment he claimed Twintania (we wiped on less than 30 seconds, of course xD). Our mt logged fast and i was about to say "well, this happens sometimes, no prob. We just retry and..."............... and everyone went to the exit, leave and disband.

I.... i don't get it...

[Fynlar]

You don't have to agree with me; I am not the one that you need to convince to make this change. But at the end of the day, it is all pretty easy stuff.

I've seen the Leviathan fight, and to be totally honest the fight looks way easier than Titan to execute once you know the unique mechanics. But, I can't even try it for myself, because I still don't have that Titan clear. Therefore, I personally couldn't care less on whether Levi EX is on the DF or not.

You can go ahead and call Titan EX easy if you like. I personally wouldn't agree, but easy/hard is all relative anyway. Saying it has plenty of room for error however, is something that I'd have to call plain wrong. Titan EX is very unforgiving of even slight positional mistakes and lag.

[Merle]

I've seen the Leviathan fight, and to be totally honest the fight looks way easier than Titan to execute once you know the unique mechanics.

To be fair, Titan is easy to execute once you know his unique mechanics. It's all about practice and improve yourself (and pray for other players doing the same xD)

[MurakumoMillennium]

SE adds duty finder for dungeons and primals:

Community: "Ugh I hate duty finder! People just drop in and out, steal all the loot, and then vanish back to their own server never to be seen again. It breeds elitism and destroys any sense of community or accountability! There should be no duty finder!"

SE doesn't add something to the duty finder:

Community: "Ugh I hate that this fight isn't in the duty finder! I can't get a group to learn, I don't have a static for it, and party finder takes too long and/or doesn't want me! This should be in the duty finder!"

[Fynlar]

To be fair, Titan is easy to execute once you know his unique mechanics.

This isn't really the case for most people though or else I would have gotten a win by now. Levi's mechanics also look to be far more forgiving.

Amazingly enough, knowing that Titan does landslides and plumes (and even doing enough runs/pattern memorizing to know when they are coming) does not necessarily mean you'll dodge them all. The majority of my runs don't even last long enough to collect an Echo buff. Despite appearing to try to avoid them, many people just aren't swift enough, and to be fair it really doesn't give you a lot of time to do so.

[Sygmaelle]

For all of those who keep askin the same things, just keep in mind what they said that would happen 2 weeks after the patch release ... Coils turn 1 - 5 will be pugable in DF, same for Levi and Moogle EX