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    Gunrunner4590's Avatar
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    The absolute best players?

    So I've farmed atma pieces since release, don't even want to state how many hours and I have 3? But there are players that had all 12 on day one and some on day two? So the best players in the game is decided by RNG? Hmmmmm.....
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    Robas Kebas
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    I got all my atmas on day one but i dont think im one of the best players I am currently on my 6th book
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunrunner4590 View Post
    So I've farmed atma pieces since release, don't even want to state how many hours and I have 3? But there are players that had all 12 on day one and some on day two? So the best players in the game is decided by RNG? Hmmmmm.....
    News flash. There are no "better" players. Just cocky ones.

    B-but Kyth! Some players are better at raids! Some players outclass others with their mad MMO skillz!

    1. All difficulty is determined by:
    a. Your reaction time, this gets worse with age.
    b. Your latency.
    c. Whether or not you are a competent human being.

    2. Your "mad skillz" are determined by:
    a. How much time you have to sink into this game. (Be it memorizing patterns or RNG, I don't flippin' care.)
    b. Your latency.
    c. How much of a prick you tend to be to other players.

    Better players don't boast. Better players don't bitch about those with less time getting gear in alternate ways. Better players contribute to their community in positive ways. Better players aren't jealous nor disdainful of other players that choose to sink more hours in.

    Neutral stance. Be a better player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Issac View Post
    1. All difficulty is determined by:
    b. Your latency.

    2. Your "mad skillz" are determined by:
    b. Your latency.
    I'll have to disagree with you there because just because your internet is crappy or live really far from servers doesn't mean you are a bad player. That is an external variable that is potentially out of your control. If anything someone who knows that they have lag and finds ways to get around it or even use it to their advantage is a much better player because they are literally maximizing what little resources they have. That being said as a PS3 player I have been in numerous instances where the mobs appear a second or two late so I adapt and react ahead of time. Often times I'm much quicker to react than my pc mates because I'm always think of whats not on the screen rather than waiting for it to show up.

    Example:
    T4 in the 2nd add phase when the solider and knight drops. I see their life bars first before I see the actual mob. So I throw a flash and OP and as soon as they appear on my screen I have full hate. If I was to wait until it showed on my screen they would be wailing on the healers.
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    Last edited by Marxam; 04-03-2014 at 04:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    just because your internet is crappy or live really far from servers doesn't mean you are a bad player.
    I think you misunderstood me, or made assumptions about my motivations to declare such things. I never intended to say that high latency makes you a bad player. I was pointing out that, in the end, being a prick makes you a bad player.

    For what it's worth, I live in the US and play on Masamune. Oh god do I know latency. But this is by choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Issac View Post
    News flash. There are no "better" players. Just cocky ones.

    B-but Kyth! Some players are better at raids! Some players outclass others with their mad MMO skillz!

    1. All difficulty is determined by:
    a. Your reaction time, this gets worse with age.
    b. Your latency.
    c. Whether or not you are a competent human being.

    2. Your "mad skillz" are determined by:
    a. How much time you have to sink into this game. (Be it memorizing patterns or RNG, I don't flippin' care.)
    b. Your latency.
    c. How much of a prick you tend to be to other players.

    Better players don't boast. Better players don't bitch about those with less time getting gear in alternate ways. Better players contribute to their community in positive ways. Better players aren't jealous nor disdainful of other players that choose to sink more hours in.

    Neutral stance. Be a better player.
    I really really like Issacs attitude, THAT is what this game needs more of.
    A+
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    Nugget Highwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunrunner4590 View Post
    So I've farmed atma pieces since release, don't even want to state how many hours and I have 3? But there are players that had all 12 on day one and some on day two? So the best players in the game is decided by RNG? Hmmmmm.....
    No, the best players are determined by skill, not by their luck.
    Someone who knows what they are doing will always be better than someone who doesn't, regardless of whatever slight upgrade their weapons have.

    A DRG with a crafted i70 weapon doing the right stuff can easily out DPS some useless DRG with a Zenith spamming 1-2-3, as I recently found out.
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    Swishytail Exaflare
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    I wouldn't say quite that. There are 3 weapons that are very, very comparable and they are all gotten with different paths.
    Getting all 12 Atmas doesn't make you the "best" player.

    Here's an example:
    http://xivdb.com/?compare/items/7835-7814-7286
    All iLvl 100.

    As a matter of fact, when all is said and done (at least until 2.3), the Animus weapon is actually 3rd behind Allagan and Non-Weathered.
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    Having an Animus weapon isn't going to make a shitty player clear Rafflesia, much less what comes after.
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    This so needed another new thread. The OP's statement is a totally unique perspective on the whole atma thing.
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