How did the community become this toxic?

[Kyoraki]

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Good or bad, at least those games actually had a community. You can't build a large server community when all you need to play the game is to stare at a duty finder lobby that pairs up random people across servers. Of course people will be encouraged to act selfishly when they will never see those players again! We need to get rid of these shortcuts if we ever want to see the community grow either way.

[Capita]

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And regardless, blaming WoW is useless and baseless. Duty finder doesn't stop you from creating your own groups and doing stuff the way you want to, it just gives people another choice. WoW has nothing to do with FFXIV's community. WoW doesn't make people undercut you as much as they can; WoW doesn't make people troll you; WoW doesn't make people leave your CT run when their item doesn't drop. The community being the way it is, is due to people being inherently selfish, and it has nothing to do with WoW. Blaming Blizzard for how the community acts is very stupid.

[Kyoraki]

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Yes, because people create their own parties instead of using duty finder all the time, right? Right? The game heavily encourages you to use shortcuts like this, and it's of little surprise that people use that to invent shortcuts of their own. Why bother sticking around when the Duty Finder will match them up with another bunch of strangers within seconds? Blizzard aren't to blame for the mmo community, but they ARE to blame for providing the tools that brought it down.

[Capita]

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Blizzard aren't to blame for anything. All they did was make their game more accessible. Blizzard didn't tell Square to add a duty finder, and it sure as hell didn't make people use it. Is it more convenient? Sure. But blaming them for adding a feature into THEIR game for something that's in this game is just dumb, and all you're doing is adding to the baseless anti-WoW sentiment that FF players have. ANet didn't add a duty finder to GW2; that was THEIR decision, and they're doing pretty well. Square added one, and that was THEIR decision. So blame Square for going that route, not Blizzard. But I guess it's easier to blame an outside force than the real problem.

Regardless, no one's forcing you to use it. In fact, I find it much more efficient to farm dungeons by forming a group on my server than getting stuck with randoms.