Is this your first Final Fantasy? Or do you just not remember grinding in past games?

[Amberion]

Yeah... They did, or at least I did. Red Mage or Bard
.... Tab, Tab, Tab, Tab, "Holy Crap! Dia Macro"... Wait for the RMT bot to kill it... Tab Tab Tab...etc etc.

Well, your problem was that you where using a macro when there was someone competing with you. Macro seemed to lag a bit. Best way was to just target yourself, go to spell/ability menu, pick your skill then that blue arrow would show up. And then just tab around with that and hit "enter" when mob popped.

And well, RMT pretty much sucked at claiming most NMs.

EDIT:

Wonder what some people nowadays would think if they had to farm gil just to be able to party. Or for new gear.

[Slatervonjager]

Do you remember reloading your save 500 times in a attempt to get the right chest in FF12 so that you can get the endgame spear...?

Yeah no, because I got mine the smart way, by avoiding those four chests and nabbing it while i was still at level 30. No loading over and over for me, i get endgame less then half way in.

Everyone that complains about farming or grinding in this game, have never played anything other then call of duty, league of legends or like some button masher game. Welcome to a real game boys and girls.

[Pandastirfry]

Well, your problem was that you where using a macro when there was someone competing with you. Macro seemed to lag a bit. Best way was to just target yourself, go to spell/ability menu, pick your skill then that blue arrow would show up. And then just tab around with that and hit "enter" when mob popped.

And well, RMT pretty much sucked at claiming most NMs.

EDIT:

Wonder what some people nowadays would think if they had to farm gil just to be able to party. Or for new gear.

Yeah after the first two years, I learned that truck... The next 4 years was because the RNG Gods hated me and eventually that coupled with FFXI's other numerous and glaring faults caused me to quit.

[Eardstapa]

I'll stick with my comparison, thank you. RNG still exists, its just not blatant like it used to be.

I just pray you understand I am not saying, "OMG WE NEED THIS NAOW!" But more or less saying modern games have... Made the RNG more lenient to say the least.

[SarcasmMisser]

Everyone that complains about farming or grinding in this game, have never played anything other then call of duty, league of legends or like some button masher game. Welcome to a real game boys and girls.

I am sure that you know everything about people you have never known.

[MurakumoMillennium]

Gaming doesn't dominate some of our lives.

It doesn't need to. Sure, somebody can play for 24 hours and finish their atma farming quickly, but if they can do it in ONE DAY then a very casual player with a few hours on their hands can do it within a couple of weeks.

I never actually played XI, but I assume people weren't farming for 1 mob for weeks by just typing Tab key and using 1 skill.

lol no, of course not! You were farming 1 mob for weeks by waiting for hours for it to even spawn to begin with. With competition at that!

Why back in my day we competed for mobs that dropped endgame gear (with an awesome 10% drop rate!) that only spawned once per day, and that was with dozens of other people there doing the exact same thing.

[SendohJin]

This is my 12th Final Fantasy, more if you count Tactics and the -2s.

i remember grinding (though much more in other RPGs than FF games) i don't remember ever being level capped to no abilities to grind for stuff in any game.

i'll eat onions (grinding) if it's prepared well but don't put it in oatmeal (FATEs) which i've always thought was bland and expect me to be okay with it. sometimes the sum is less than its parts.

[SendohJin]

Everyone that complains about farming or grinding in this game, have never played anything other then call of duty, league of legends or like some button masher game. Welcome to a real game boys and girls.

or some of us grew up and realized it's not okay to stay in an abusive relationship.

[ZanderMist]

Do you remember capturing tons and tons of monsters on FFX to complete the beast arena?

Do you remember reloading your save 500 times in a attempt to get the right chest in FF12 so that you can get the endgame spear...?

FFXI: I only played it for a few days, and by what I read on these forums, I'm pretty much glad I did.

FFX: At least you knew you needed 10 of each mob to complete the Zoolab. I don't remember RNG being such a factor in that game (apart from trying to get drops from Dark Aeons). That's the difference, you could see your progression and you knew you were nearing your objective. It was luck-based only to the point that you didn't know which monsters would spawn.

You did mention FFXII, and that reminded me what actually the "Up in arms" quest looked like: the Tournesol mat grind. Spent hours to get that last Serpentarius, just like I did waiting for Atma of the Maiden to drop -.-

That being said, I did finish my Gae Bolg Atma yesterday night, and allow me to say this: I wouldn't do it again for all the gil in Eorzea until the drop rates are increased.

[MurakumoMillennium]

That being said, I did finish my Gae Bolg Atma yesterday night, and allow me to say this: I wouldn't do it again for all the gil in Eorzea until the drop rates are increased.

Well I for one would happily gather 12 atma for trillions of gil :3