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  1. #171
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    My & most others arguments tend to lean toward hating the fact it's FATE grind (esp. of mixed levels)... not that it's a grind itself.

    Primarily due to the fact SE should have known the mass majority of the player base hated the idea of being forced into FATE grinds.

    Many people hate FATE's altogether.

    I still think Atma grind should've been handled via Timeworn Maps.
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  2. #172
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    I got my atma quite leisurely in a single day in which I also capped tomes, did some coil, cleared the 3 new instances, and did the new beastman dailies. You guys need to RNG harder.
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  3. #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gesser View Post
    My & most others arguments tend to lean toward hating the fact it's FATE grind (esp. of mixed levels)... not that it's a grind itself.

    Primarily due to the fact SE should have known the mass majority of the player base hated the idea of being forced into FATE grinds.

    Many people hate FATE's altogether.

    I still think Atma grind should've been handled via Timeworn Maps.
    I can see where you are coming from. I was hoping it'd be new bosses in these fates that you'd have to take down for the atma myself.
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  4. #174
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadrojj View Post
    I can see where you are coming from. I was hoping it'd be new bosses in these fates that you'd have to take down for the atma myself.
    That would've been exciting & refreshingly new. The Lightning FATE's were rad because they incorporated story elements & even new monsters at times.
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  5. #175
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gesser View Post
    That would've been exciting & refreshingly new. The Lightning FATE's were rad because they incorporated story elements & even new monsters at times.
    and rng. lol
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  6. #176
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gesser View Post
    NOTE: just because you like it & your friends do, doesn't mean the whole of the playerbase does... an argument that people enjoy it & it won't affect the # of subscribers is naïve at best. Sorry, that is no argument. Glad you're sticking around though! I personally enjoy 2.2 minus a few gripes here or there.
    So you're right and anyone who disagrees with you is a Looney. Glad you're also arrogantly naïve to the point of discrediting any opinions you had. Have a nice day.
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  7. #177
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awrini View Post
    So you're right and anyone who disagrees with you is a Looney. Glad you're also arrogantly naïve to the point of discrediting any opinions you had. Have a nice day.
    That Note is calling out an obviously fallacious argument that does nothing to contribute to the wealth of valid arguments being made... thanks for the flame/toxicity though.
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  8. #178
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    No sir. The original post had the basis of a discussable topic. However when your added that overly arrogant notation you also automatically lost all credibility.
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  9. #179
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    Quote Originally Posted by IStolzI View Post
    This patch was awesome. The relic questions is awesome. There's so many different ways to gear and there is actually stuff that needs to be worked for, but alternatives that are only slightly weaker but far faster. Game is getting good
    What? As I see it SE decreased the ways to gear. There is only one way to gear now and that is Coil 2. Before you could gear with myth, but not anymore. Coil is only way to gear.
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    Learn, explore, and think for yourself. Make your choices, take actions, and let yourself be free.

  10. #180
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApolloGenX View Post
    ...and 1.0 was a humiliating failure that hardly anyone played. So that is not exactly something to brag about.

    In fact, it should have been a cautionary tale.
    People came back after payment system started and more lv50 endcontent came out. There were still enough people to fill up 7 1/2 serves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lunavi View Post
    What? As I see it SE decreased the ways to gear. There is only one way to gear now and that is Coil 2. Before you could gear with myth, but not anymore. Coil is only way to gear.
    Only content you would need coil gear is coil 9 and the next coil in 2.4. In short, coil gear is only interesant for people doing coil. For everything else tome gear is also good.
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    Last edited by Felis; 04-30-2014 at 09:30 AM.

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