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  1. #1
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    Gesser's Avatar
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    Saedrin Nightfury
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    Gilgamesh
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    SE - 2.2 is Going to Cost You Greatly

    There are a severe number of changes causing rifts in the player base.

    We've received no communication thus far on them nor replies to any of the numerous complaint threads.

    I don't want this to turn into a complaint thread, nor do I wish you to flame me for pointing this out to the developers.

    I simply want you, SE, to please come out & start talking.

    2.2 marks a radical shift in the dynamic of the game, it didn't make for simple additions. Mass-grinding, paid services that give market-advantages (debatable), further broken servers & lag, an incredibly weak story (opinion), severe nerfs plus echo, the list goes on...

    I would consider this communication your upmost priority, it's urgent how quickly you're going to lose players in the hundreds (people already unsubbing, fact), even thousands (potentially).

    And please take our words in kind, and carefully consider your next move.

    NOTE1: just because you like it & your friends do, doesn't mean the whole of the playerbase does... an argument that people enjoy it & it won't affect the # of subscribers is naïve at best. Sorry, that is no argument. Glad you're sticking around though! I personally enjoy 2.2 minus a few gripes here or there.

    NOTE2: yes, I'm aware the reciprocal statement to Note 1 is also true... I believed that to be strongly implicit or easily captured in the making of the statement. My purpose is to specifically address those who would often reply "well I like it so gtfo", to which Note 1 is for them.
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    Last edited by Gesser; 05-01-2014 at 01:21 AM.

  2. #2
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    Dia Dumenos
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    F2P/P2WIN here we come!
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    WUB WUB

    FFXI- Seraph

  3. #3
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    Odsarzol Que
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    2.2 was an amazing step in the right direction in concept. The issue is their FATE system (let's be real, this is all you people are complaining about) otherwise, there's absolutely nothing else wrong with what 2.2 did beyond making Myth tomes an absolute chore to get.

    Oh, also learn this concept:

    "We have to keep our players busy until 2.3."

    2.0: Coil had a 1 week lockout.
    2.1: Labyrinth of Ancients had a 1 week lockout on gear lots, Coil still a 1 week lockout but 2.1 was a "catch up patch."
    2.2: Coil had no lockout, LoTA has no lockout...Coil turn 2 has a lockout, reduced the amount of tomes you can get but no cap on myth.
    2.3 = 3+ months away.

    Get the idea..?

    Also, people magically stopped complaining about the paid retainer services..because they either bought them or just stopped caring.
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  4. #4
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    Haken Browning
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    Do people honestly believe that 2.2 is going to keep the majority of players busy until 2.3? And I don't mean logging in for a day, capping soldiery and maybe running coil if you're geared for it through the RNG drops.
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    Alexander Dragonfang
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    Zalera
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    LOL
    Cause a few pieces of materials each 18 hours is now "paid-market advantages". LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
    Ventures are utterly useless, crafting is useless, and what crafting gives, gil, is also useless. Such paid advantage lol.

    The grind is perfect, is not long nor severe, it has brought maps back to live and has give a really nice long term archivement. Someone is just dissapointed cause he can`t have his Zodiac day-1. Population is not going anywhere, if your know people leaving, is only natural, the game is already in the process to stabilize their population and besides, your "population rifts" have caused severe lag issues in DF for overpopulation of the DF servers and dungeon servers. Things that usually happen when lots of people are leaving...
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  6. #6
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prototype909 View Post
    Do people honestly believe that 2.2 is going to keep the majority of players busy until 2.3? And I don't mean logging in for a day, capping soldiery and maybe running coil if you're geared for it through the RNG drops.
    It's not what we believe, it's what Square Enix is obviously doing with this because they did it with 2.1. We (the players) know many of us will be done with a lot of this content long before they even begin to tell us "please look forward to it."
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  7. #7
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    This patch was awesome. The relic questions is awesome. There's so many different ways to gear and there is actually stuff that needs to be worked for, but alternatives that are only slightly weaker but far faster. Game is getting good
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  8. #8
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    Luna Sushima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diadumenos View Post
    F2P/P2WIN here we come!
    Sorry but no.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    2.2 was an amazing step in the right direction in concept. The issue is their FATE system (let's be real, this is all you people are complaining about) otherwise, there's absolutely nothing else wrong with what 2.2 did beyond making Myth tomes an absolute chore to get.

    Oh, also learn this concept:

    "We have to keep our players busy until 2.3."

    2.0: Coil had a 1 week lockout.
    2.1: Labyrinth of Ancients had a 1 week lockout on gear lots, Coil still a 1 week lockout but 2.1 was a "catch up patch."
    2.2: Coil had no lockout, LoTA has no lockout...Coil turn 2 has a lockout, reduced the amount of tomes you can get but no cap on myth.
    2.3 = 3+ months away.

    Get the idea..?

    Also, people magically stopped complaining about the paid retainer services..because they either bought them or just stopped caring.
    Once they get rid of the FATE system and just replace it with a NM system, this game will be sooo much better. Perhaps they are trying to figure out how to get rid of it while keeping the balance of the game.
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    Last edited by Starlord; 03-30-2014 at 03:50 AM.

  9. #9
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    Ukaei Ukaei
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    At this rate, the REALM will have to go through another rebirth.

    A Realm Reborn; part 2. Coming Soon. Please look forward to it.
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  10. #10
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    Edwin Li
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Once they get rid of the FATE system and just replace it with a NM system, this game will be sooo much better. Perhaps they are trying to figure out how to get rid of it while keeping the balance of the game.
    If you eman Natorious Monsters that won't fix anything. NM was just camping for rare spawns while everyone would be at each others throughts to claim the NM.

    Removing FATe entirely will not fix anything. People are just going to complain about that variety in leveling is lacking in the end once they run out of quests and only thing left are Dungeons and Dailies.
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