How This was over looked is beyond me

[KrenianKandos]

A lot of people are going at the Atma grinding the wrong way and this at fault both the player and the developer:

1) The player needs to realize that this should be a goal to achieve in the long run and that doing it in two days never was the purpose. It is a long term goal to stretch in the next three months until the next patch. As such, people need to treat it that way instead of having it right now.

2) The developers should have realized people really hate having to deal with RNG and having some people get their Atma in a day, and others get no Atma whatsoever in x hours of grind. (In my case, myself, I only have 2 after say 16 hours of doing grinding this weekend versus my wife, who has 7 in the same amount of time.)

Personally, I would have preferred an idea that a grind is needed in FATEs but not a drop: make it that you have to use your Zenith weapon x amount of times in 12 different locations or get an item. Say, having hacked away at 500 (arbitrary number) mobs in a fate will unlock the Atma. But there is still a minute chance that you get an Atma as a drop which bypasses your 500.

That way, you don't cheapen the experience as it's still a grind to kill 500 mobs, but you also give that RNG a factor. The biggest problems players probably have is because it's entirely based on RNG as to when you'll get an item. That's not a fun formula to follow; it never has been. Like the weapons, they should have made possible progression paths. It sucks for those who either REALLY want their Relic because it's the only item they really want or that they can really go for (Yes, it does exist that some people don't have time to Dedicate to Coil/Extreme modes.)

Finally, I don't really care about the Relic in terms of how to achieve it: I'm impartial to the grind and have grind'ed out a lot worse than this. But it is, by far, not the most fun experience in this game. I will stop grinding to go do dungeons (even with the piss poor connection lately the Duty servers have) or do my roulettes. Or I'll go mine. In the end, it'll happen in due time and I'll dedicate some time to do it.

Why in the world would you do x hours FATE grinding is beyond me; you're really setting yourself up to hate the game. If you get tired and frustrated, go do other things.


Also, I always wanted to be a lead dev for a day. I suppose this is some form of way to be so. Too bad we don't have the options he probably does!

[Pylfer]

I think the problem with the Atma drops is that it caters to people with a lot of time on their hands.

For instance, a person who works for 8-9 hours a day, has a 30minute + commute, cooks dinner, watches a show or movie, hangs out with wife/girlfriend/kids, and then plays for maybe 1-2 hours a night (this is not my life by the way) has to hope that they get the luck that some people have and can at least get one during that time period (over the course of a day or two). This would be the only way for them to be able to get the first half of the Atma quest done in about a month to two months or so... which is kinda sucky. As a reference, I've been running the Atma quest now for about three days and have invested somewhere around 8 hours and have still yet to see a single drop.

Also it kinda sucks if you are one of those people and you have to spend your day off mindlessly grinding low level FATEs in order to get a chance at an item that will help you keep up with the rest of your FC.

I dunno. I have to agree with OP in that it seems like the first half of this quest is a little out of place in FFXIV 2.0. The second part of the quest sounds pretty much on the level (farm some dungeons, have a higher % chance of getting the items that you need, expect a turn around time of 1-2 weeks if you're taking it at a gradual pace).

[jojober]

How is it a "problem" that the people with more time to dedicate to the game (which means they are putting in more work) have more access to end game gear? If you put in the work you get the reward.

[Kaze3434]

How is it a "problem" that the people with more time to dedicate to the game (which means they are putting in more work) have more access to end game gear? If you put in the work you get the reward.

its not a problem if you have more time. time+effort=reward. this is more along the lines of time+effort/rng= no atma for you. and like i said at the start, you wont see any ivl100 weps besides levi ex wep for 3 weeks. aside from the people who may down t9 in two weeks.

[Arkista]

They also don't seem to be aware that it will take 3 weeks before anyone has the soldiery to even buy a weathered weapon. So our options are Levi weapon, Tidal Levi weapon, Twintania weapon (cause we know many people never got one and its still decent), and Zodiac. The only true upgrade on that list is the Tidal Levi weapon so unless you are working directly for that the Zodiac weapon is really one of the only short term solutions.

Next week players will be able to buy the Tokens to get a weathered weapon. I don't know If I should just buy the tokens or get gear.

[Wicc]

This is how they get you to keep playing.

People complain about there not being any lengthy content.
Then complain when they didn't get something new and shiny in the first day.
In relation to Atma farming: I have 7 so far and guess what, I find a way to make it fun. I usually go with my FC mates or just do homework while I do it. I promise, it makes it go by alot faster. So what if someone got it before you? This isn't an e-penor size contest.

Do you want new, drawn out content? Or do you want everything handed to you day 1 and then complain about being bored all the time?

[Kaze3434]

Next week players will be able to buy the Tokens to get a weathered weapon. I don't know If I should just buy the tokens or get gear.

true, but it wont be worth it. that three weeks of tomes for 1 i100. better to go the gear route and do coils. in those three weeks, you can get three accessories, and have 225 tomes leftover. another week, you have enough for armor and have some left over again.

acctually, not true, as you will have to have done coil2 also to have the unidtome.

[Andevom]

I think the problem with the Atma drops is that it caters to people with a lot of time on their hands.

I think it caters more to people who are leveling, or in other words, people who *aren't* farming the Atma.

Of course, I can only speak for my server. Before 2.2, the amount of people doing FATEs in certain areas was abysmal. If you wanted to, say, attempt "Lazy for You" for the EXP/Achievement, good luck.

That said, the way the Atmas were handled was poor. They could've made it a set number of FATEs per zone need to be completed, and people still would've complained, but at least you'd have some sensation of progress.

[SanjuroXI]

why is everyones name yoshida??????? so confused

[Neablis]

well yoshida i'm sure it is some form of april fools joke.