'Raids', really?

[Viridiana]

I have to wonder if we even have the same definition of "Zerg," much less of "raid;" because by the definition of "Zerg" that I'm working with, I've zerged more NMs in XIV than I ever zerged anything in WoW, which is especially sad when you consider how long I played WoW versus how long I've played XIV.

At any rate, it's rather sad that the word "raid" fills you with such negative emotions. Even sadder is the fact that, as I pointed out before, "raid" isn't even a term used all that often by WoW players when talking to each other. I guarantee you that, had you regularly played WoW, you wouldn't have heard the term nearly as often. This is probably why I don't associate the two at all, really. So, basically, it's a stigma attached by outsiders to something they've never experienced. Well, they did experience it (in FFXI); but they refuse to acknowledge that what they experienced is this unholy "raid" thing. . .

[Wolfie]

The point is it still reminds you of the sarah you've had a bad relationship with no? Your ok with being constantly remind of bad experiences?

No, because I don't get hung up on names or words like that. If I would, I would be seeking psychological help right away.

what you call baseless closely relates to labeling theory in my eyes. Words have stigmas attached to them that cause them to develop preconceived notions. It is not difficult to come up with a easy creative and definitively correct term for these instances, if SE chooses to name it "raid" w/e i just want people to stop flaming with the statement "What you want it pointless and I think the game needs ______ because that's more important".

whats worse requesting a name change that is as you call it "pointless"
-or-
Flaming said topic that you think is "pointless"....

Can you even read what I wrote? I don't think the thread is pointless. I never even used the word. I said that the stigma is baseless and potentially harmful to the evolution of the game. That's the complete opposite of "pointless". I want people to stop freaking out over the word because it literally has no effect on the kind of content the game will see.

[Morticous]

Well then cool guy, your better then the rest of us humans.

[Bled]

I have to wonder if we even have the same definition of "Zerg," much less of "raid;" because by the definition of "Zerg" that I'm working with, I've zerged more NMs in XIV than I ever zerged anything in WoW, which is especially sad when you consider how long I played WoW versus how long I've played XIV.

At any rate, it's rather sad that the word "raid" fills you with such negative emotions. Even sadder is the fact that, as I pointed out before, "raid" isn't even a term used all that often by WoW players when talking to each other. I guarantee you that, had you regularly played WoW, you wouldn't have heard the term nearly as often. This is probably why I don't associate the two at all, really. So, basically, it's a stigma attached by outsiders to something they've never experienced. Well, they did experience it (in FFXI); but they refuse to acknowledge that what they experienced is this unholy "raid" thing. . .

Talk about baseless accusations... I wont even dignify this with a response other than.

You know nothing of me, to make any of your claims valid.

[Wolfie]

If you honestly feel that way, then I suppose I'm here to bring you up to my level.

[Morticous]

All I know is im perfectly fine without psychological help And i know that things remind me of bad events all the time. I also know im not the only one and just because you dont understand it dosnt make it false.

[Viridiana]

Talk about baseless accusations... I wont even dignify this with a response other than.

You know nothing of me, to make any of your claims valid.

Hmm. . . only so many ways to interpret this. Option one, you're upset about my first paragraph, which I find doubtful. Option two, you're upset that I'm claiming you have a negative reaction to the term "raid," which I'm pretty sure is a fair claim. Option three, you're upset that I'm implying you didn't play much of WoW. I'm guessing it's option three, but, please, do tell me if I'm wrong.

[Bled]

Hmm. . . only so many ways to interpret this. Option one, you're upset about my first paragraph, which I find doubtful. Option two, you're upset that I'm claiming you have a negative reaction to the term "raid," which I'm pretty sure is a fair claim. Option three, you're upset that I'm implying you didn't play much of WoW. I'm guessing it's option three, but, please, do tell me if I'm wrong.

Well first paragraph was completely unnecessary, seeing as i never claimed that FFXIV did not have ZERG content. ZERG content is ZERG content its in many games i never attached the two terms to FFXIV and WoW for comparison to make the point that the stigma exists, you attempted to put those words in my mouth through an assumption.

Raid just reminds me of the same old song and dance, ZERG and LOOT at the end, nothing sad about that; like i have stated and you have ignored if the term "raid" stays i ultimately don't care, i would just prefer something more creative in the end.

You say raid was rarely used.
-your word against mine-
I say i herd it all the time.

And i had plenty of experience in WoW, so your last claim is completely baseless and falls apart, seeing as your assuming Im an outsider to the game which i was not.

[Bled]

No, because I don't get hung up on names or words like that. If I would, I would be seeking psychological help right away.



Can you even read what I wrote? I don't think the thread is pointless. I never even used the word. I said that the stigma is baseless and potentially harmful to the evolution of the game. That's the complete opposite of "pointless". I want people to stop freaking out over the word because it literally has no effect on the kind of content the game will see.

"Some of the posts made on this forum by the anti-WOW brigade are asinine to the extreme. This topic especially feels almost like it could give me a brain tumor."

With that post above kept in mind, you are stating that you did not think this thread was pointless? Because if not then you got me i miss read into your post.

And with your new assertions i agree stigmas are bad and should be avoided at all coasts, it would be great to change the way people think everywhere so that stigma's didn't exist for the greater good. However the stigma does exist and the easiest way around it is coming up with a simple yet creative name change and avoiding it.

Your trying to make a mountain out of a molehill

[Reika]

Are people that pissed off at the word 'Raid'?

well i would like to add that raid isnt a WoW term. Everquest had raiding too and was released 5 years prior... And maybe another older one like Anarchy Online had it, but i never played that far into that one. so enough about that. Also.... its just a word! A new one can always be made up by us FF players, and maybe they will have a word for it when the dungeons come out.